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Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by Jplenbrook »

davidbalbert wrote: post #15
dylangs1030 wrote: post #12

Disclaimer: I'm not in a position to use this startup, but my parents divorced when I was young. I'm going to be that guy. I really don't like this startup, or at least how it's presented. I have never seen a startup's front page focus so exhaustively on a founder's background. After reading about her story I'm not motivated to look elsewhere. Her story garners a lot of sympathy, but how does the company work? That's…

It looks like OP it's just a founder profile. The company's home page[1] is much closer to what you would expect. I was initially thrown off too, though. [1] http://wevorce.com/

I still think the homepage leaves out a lot of the value. The explainer video only sets the problem, not the solution.

Problem: Divorce is messy and it's the second most stressful event you and your Children will ever go through. The average divorce takes a year with many dragging on for many years,and inculde _________ trips to court with an average cost of $27,000.

Solution: Our initial trial of 104 families Wevorced in an average of 89 days with 1 trip to court (That's not per family that out all 104 families) and our service costs a fraction of what is normally paid in court fees.

We are able to this using our 6 step process _______ instead of the traditional adversarial __________.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by thenomad »

eksith wrote: post #25

Really? This is what it's come down to? Parenting and separation via day-planner. No wonder so many of my friends aren't getting married. A common law marriage is likely to last a lot longer these days since, well, it's not common law unless you've been together for a while. Sometimes years. This is also another reason why parents who ignore their children's feelings when getting a divorce are a bunch of inconsiderat…

Bitter, resentful people attempting to fake being in love for the sake of their children whilst hating every minute of being together doesn't work very well either.

Remember, children model expectations for future life on what they see from role models, notably parents. Subconciously imprinting them with the belief that a relationship should be unhappy, fake and filled with resentment and anger isn't great.

Not to mention that a home inhabited by two people who don't want to be there just isn't a very nice environment for a child.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by curiousdannii »

strevat wrote: post #81
curiousdannii wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the opposite -- the ligatures seem like they're supposed to make the company look fancy, but when combined with the photos of the founders I just felt creeped out.

I actually helped out with this design, would love some further note as to what felt "creepy" about it. Thanks for the feedback!

The ligatures aren't especially creepy, but they're still bad. It is very odd to use the blatant st and ck ligatures and not use f or t ligatures. And maybe it's the fact that you're using slab serifs? I haven't considered this before, but maybe slab serifs and ligatures just don't mix? Your ampersand is nice though!

The still from the first video is incredibly off-putting. It's an awkward smile for any website, but for a divorce website, with the caption "They put me on the stand" it seems very inappropriate. I realised seeing the photo later on that it was one of the founders, but from the image and caption alone there'd be no way to know that (people should read the copy text, sure, but many of them will see the image first.) The Founders & Co image is better, but it does make me think that a sparkle will appear on their teeth any moment now...

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by ams6110 »

eksith wrote: post #32
danilocampos wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that this is the best venue for pearl clutching or preaching. What's known is that a substantial number of marriages do end in divorce. These divorces are extremely painful and expensive. The reasons for divorce might be as varied as the number of people getting them, but the procedures involved are rarely unique. So all of that is an obvious recipe for disrupting an existing industry and printing money…

I just don't believe in marriage as an institution; especially when it's such a farce for so many people to begin with. Kicking this sacred cow has consequences so my feeling is, let's not make it sacred. If consenting adults want to do whatever, let them do whatever. I've got no problem with anyone who wants to get divorced if there are no children involved since that kind of breakup (no matter how smooth people try…

I don't think many people consider "for better or worse" or "until death" as literals anymore (if they ever really did). If you can't really commit to those promises, don't get married.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by mnicole »

curiousdannii wrote: post #35
mnicole wrote: post #8

This is petty compared to the purpose of the startup, but the typography/use of ligatures on the site is fantastic.

I thought the opposite -- the ligatures seem like they're supposed to make the company look fancy, but when combined with the photos of the founders I just felt creeped out.

Oh I didn't notice it in the banner itself, just the rest of the body headlines. I don't like it up there either, it's too busy/awkward.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by bambax »

bambax wrote: post #87

I don't understand how this is a "startup" in YC/PG's sense of "growth machine". From the article, the purpose of wevorce is to offer a new approach to divorce, where just one lawyer works for the whole family (partners + kids), instead of the usual arrangement where each partner fights the other to death. This certainly sounds like a good idea, but isn't it just a kind of counseling business (the Accenture of divorc…

Replying to my own question like on Stackoverflow, it could be that what wevorce does (from a business perspective) is create a new market (a cheap divorce where there is only 1 lawyer instead of 2, and less paperwork), and providing this market with a software solution that it builds and maintains.

Wevorce doesn't employ lawyers directly, it just acts as a marketplace between them and people wanting to get divorced without killing one another, and it takes a cut in the form of software licence.

So from this point of view there's no reason it couldn't scale indefinitely.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

whalesalad wrote: post #39
eksith wrote: post #25

Really? This is what it's come down to? Parenting and separation via day-planner. No wonder so many of my friends aren't getting married. A common law marriage is likely to last a lot longer these days since, well, it's not common law unless you've been together for a while. Sometimes years. This is also another reason why parents who ignore their children's feelings when getting a divorce are a bunch of inconsiderat…

I can't stand hearing this kind of fud. My parents divorced when I was ten. My dad was accused of being abusive. He may or may not have been, I'm not sure on all the details. Regardless, I turned out fine. I had to go to court. I had to talk to police at random intervals. I could only see my dad a few times a month for a few hours, or every other weekend. They were strange circumstances. But this bullshit about stay…

The problem is that on the surface it sounds like a good thing, but the reality can be very different.

When people would ask me if I was bothered that my parents were not married, my usual answer was "no, because they would certainly have divorced, or my life would have sucked in a major way." I've seen my parents together enough to know that although they were always polite to each other (at least when I was around) that there is no way they would have stayed together.

Likewise, my wife says the opposite: her parents waited many years too long to get divorced and she suffered for it.

As as result when she and I considered getting divorced (in the end, we didn't) the one thing we could agree on is that every step we took had to consider the impact on the children. That doesn't mean staying together "for their sake" but it did mean not dragging them through the mud with us.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by mrkurt »

ajju wrote: post #72
mrkurt wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heartily recommend becoming a foster parent through your state children/family services agency. It's an oft overlooked route to adoption and, despite a million frustrations of its own, has worked much better for us than private adoption seems to/would have.

I have no experience, so please excuse this if it's insensitive, but isn't the difference between adopting and being a foster parent the fact that as a foster parent you are only a temporary guardian for the child? i.e. they usually have parents they would go back to eventually?

Not insensitive at all. Fostering is just the first step, and can be followed by a formal adoption. Our three adoptions were foster for ~2 years as the case made its way through the courts (we got all the kids at Depending on the situation, kids can go back with their biological parents. The social worker should be pretty up front about the prospects of that, though. Of the 5 kids we've fostered, 2 went back to their parents and we were well aware of that before we took them (they were 3 and 6 years old). Usually when infants are removed from a home, there's not much chance of them returning.

Re: Wevorce (YC W13) makes divorce suck less

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Post by Pinatubo »

Jplenbrook wrote: post #89
Pinatubo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Careful: there's also a self-selection effect here. Only those couples who have a fairly good chance at a somewhat amicable separation would even try a service like this. Wevorce would probably have a much lower success rate with 104 randomly selected families going through divorce.

For a scientific study you are absolutely correct, however, this is a business and in business you only deal with the self-selecting group that would use your service. The better question would be what percentage of the market would actually use this service, especially knowing that it has and over 99% success rate. In my experience women often want a fast divorce and men want a cheap one so if she can provide that s…

I think asking whether wevorce provides any benefit to its customers is also a pretty good question. This is why the self-selection problem is important. 99% of wevorce users don't go to court, but is that an improvement over the baseline percentage for the kinds of couples that would use wevorce?
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