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Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

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Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

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Post by Terr_ »

TZubiri wrote: post #53
Terr_ wrote: post #22

Reminds me of Musk "stole" the @X and @e Twitter handles from users.

well he owns tiwtter, and therefore the handles and their URLs, so the quotes are aptly placed.

I would focus less on "it's not technically a crime so the quotes should be there" part, and more on how "["stolen"] is more accurate than [reallocated] because it's a dick-move of betrayal against users and a worrying violation of norms".

Kind of like if the Example Community is in an uproar because Alice took a baseball-bat an "murdered" her neighbor Bob's dog. Carol's "helpful" note that it isn't homicide may not be received the way she expects.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#92

Post by theturtletalks »

cortesoft wrote: post #79
theturtletalks wrote: post #12

Wild so many creators are pouring their life’s work into these platforms instead of their personal website

Muse released their 4th platinum album before Twitter was even founded. They poured their life's work into Twitter? That is ridiculous.

You’re right. I was more pointing to artists and creators after Muse that would have it a lot worse if they got their handle taken.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#93

Post by dunham »

sippingabonedry wrote: post #19

> The exact circumstances surrounding the changes aren't clear. The exact circumstances are that they likely paid them a shitload of money.

Back in May, the iOS app "Muse" rebranded as "Allume". Their explanation was "An unexpected opportunity came up regarding the Muse name and trademarks, and as a result I'll soon be changing the name of Muse to Allumé."

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#94

Post by brookst »

throw0101a wrote: post #83
brookst wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This place has become Reddit with how easy it is to farm upvotes for any “evil corpos” take, no matter how clueless or inane.

> This place has become Reddit […] Not reading TFA (the fine article) has been a noble Internet tradition since (at least) the earliest days of Slashdot.

Oh way before that.

But the mating displays about every company being a conspiracy are about Reddit era, IIRC.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#95

Post by TZubiri »

Terr_ wrote: post #91
TZubiri wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well he owns tiwtter, and therefore the handles and their URLs, so the quotes are aptly placed.

I would focus less on "it's not technically a crime so the quotes should be there" part, and more on how "["stolen"] is more accurate than [reallocated] because it's a dick-move of betrayal against users and a worrying violation of norms". Kind of like if the Example Community is in an uproar because Alice took a baseball-bat an "murdered" her neighbor Bob's dog. Carol's "helpful" note that it isn't homicide may not…

Equating taking a social media handle with bloody violence against an animal is so weak it doesn't merit an answer.

> "it's not technically a crime so the quotes should be there"

Not only is it not a crime, but it's not even a civil breach of contract.

Get some perspective

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#96

Post by Terr_ »

TZubiri wrote: post #95
Terr_ wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would focus less on "it's not technically a crime so the quotes should be there" part, and more on how "["stolen"] is more accurate than [reallocated] because it's a dick-move of betrayal against users and a worrying violation of norms". Kind of like if the Example Community is in an uproar because Alice took a baseball-bat an "murdered" her neighbor Bob's dog. Carol's "helpful" note that it isn't homicide may not…

Equating taking a social media handle with bloody violence against an animal is so weak it doesn't merit an answer. > "it's not technically a crime so the quotes should be there" Not only is it not a crime, but it's not even a civil breach of contract. Get some perspective

> Equating taking a social media handle with bloody violence against an animal is so weak it doesn't merit an answer.

Me: "The relationship moving between the pair $A->$B has similarities to the relationship moving between pair $X-->$Y."

You: "OMG WTF how dare you say that single thing $X is just as bad as single thing $A!!!"

> Get some perspective

"Get" analogies.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#97

Post by TZubiri »

ben_w wrote: post #9
bko wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last I checked usernames aren't a public good. You're part of a social network and they get to set the policy. Sure, you can claim it was a dick move, and maybe it is (although why is a handle so valuable? "muse instagram" now links to the @museband and their followers were transferred). This is just some phony outrage. It's also ironic that the overlap of people that find this offensive but were fine with social med…

> Last I checked usernames aren't a public good. You're part of a social network and they get to set the policy. I'd count this as "strong-armed into this". The giants want all the benefits of being public spaces with none of the responsibilities. To use their (US) constitutional right to free speech to sell any ad they want, while using their power (as a private corporation) to ban (or algorithmically censor) unwant…

>To use their (US) constitutional right to free speech to sell any ad they want

First I've heard of this, in what case was free speech used to justify a right to show a specific ad?

>while using their power (as a private corporation) to ban (or algorithmically censor) unwanted speech

It's actually the opposite, they justify being a public forum for free spech in order NOT to be liable for vetting and publishing the content, they want to be considered a neutral intermediary, not a publisher liable in any way for whatever is published.

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#98

Post by mfru »

brookst wrote: post #94
throw0101a wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This place has become Reddit […] Not reading TFA (the fine article) has been a noble Internet tradition since (at least) the earliest days of Slashdot.

Oh way before that. But the mating displays about every company being a conspiracy are about Reddit era, IIRC.

to be fair, Meta is a conspiracy company, probably just not in this particular case

Re: Rock band Muse lose social media handles to Meta’s new AI tool

#99

Post by slazaro »

theturtletalks wrote: post #82
hackernud3s wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a band, your life's work is the music. The platform is just a communication channel.

Their website can provide the backbone for concerts, merch, DTC tix maybe? I’m sure the fans that are not on these platforms would appreciate.

...but they do? I don't really see what your point is.

https://www.muse.mu/

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