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Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

It's already been happening for a very long time. The US' "Operation Earnest Voice" happened in 2010/2011[0]

And it's not just state actors. Anyone who was online during the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trials was likely inundated with media about that trial. Both of their legal teams utilized bots to drive online discussions[1][2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

[1] https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2022-07-19/...

[2] https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/02/26/depp-v-heard-who-tr...

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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It's been about 20 years since I read Neal Stephenson's Anathem and (SPOILERS) one thing I think about is the Reticulum, which is the Internet on this world. One aspect is that it's full of what we would now call slop. A lot of it is subtly changed by agents and there are other agents you can use (and, I assume purchase?) that will weed out the fake information. It's basically an arms race of disinformation and slop.…

The comparison to pre-atomic steel is poignant. I have found myself preferring pre-AI sources in some cases even (especially?) for computer related information. It is difficult to view pre-slop info as a limited resource without implying decline until the status quo changes again.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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I stand corrected. They're still psychopaths though.

I mean you can probably find a Ben Gvir quote where he is advocating killing civilians if you looked for it. Just this one instance was a miss.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Worth noting that proposal was stopped on animal rights grounds, rather than humam rights.

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> Estimated total force is of 15,000-20,000 armed combatants. And how many after you stop counting journalists and little kids? We've all seen what Israel is doing, no matter how they try to hide it.

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Worth noting that proposal was stopped on animal rights grounds, rather than humam rights.

It’s an injunction and arguably a legal pretext to stop it in its tracks. That’s not uncommon in any system, just like SCOTUS rulings often seem strangely specific to restrain the scope of their ruling.

Tl;dr Lawfare is a thing and it’s effing everywhere.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Yes, he is totally powerless, he merely controls the police and prison system. (BTW, the Israeli government just announced it plans to transfer law enforcement in the West Bank over to Ben-Gvir's police: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/14/israeli-milita...)
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