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Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Bluesky's feed algorithm (the "Discover" tab) is the worst I've ever seen. Hands down. I can't imagine anyone enjoying it unless they're 1) super into the US politics/domestic issues AND 2) politically aligned with the main user base of Bluesky. The funniest part is that there is a better algorithm. It's right here: https://bsky.app/profile/spacecowboy17.bsky.social/feed/for-... But somehow the devs of Bluesky never…

The false equivalency is so funny, you mean a platform where the president sells private access to his massive lies ahead of time so that you can front run the market?

The one where war crimes are directly equivocated and WW3 is regularly threatened?

The one where anti-vax conspiracy is gospel, up is down, and black is white?

Get the biggest pile of hippy dippy bullshit together and you'll never compare to the toxic waste dump of "Truth" Social.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The distinction is that Mastodon doesn't have to grow, and Bluesky does. There's an extent to which Bluesky is viable because its venture-funded owner pays for the infrastructure it operates on (Mastodon communities generally have to stand on their own two feet). If there's no path for Bluesky to grow into a viable business on its current financial runway, the funding for the infrastructure will end.

We already have others running infrastructure as well so if bsky goes away the platform can survive

Will it though? Where mastodon is much more distributed, bluesky/ATProto use is highly concentrated on bsky.app

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #91

How are the X figures computed ? Bluesky is a public network, anyone can analyse and count. What about X, held by Musk ?

Would be hard to gauge, X has a major bot problem, which Musk made big claims about combating but yet has failed to yield realistic results...

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #95
post #91

How are the X figures computed ? Bluesky is a public network, anyone can analyse and count. What about X, held by Musk ?

Would be hard to gauge, X has a major bot problem, which Musk made big claims about combating but yet has failed to yield realistic results...

Elon bought X for the bot problem, not because of it.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #87

As an anecdote, I switched a year or two ago along with most everyone I followed on X. It’s nothing like the vibe on old Twitter. I hate to say it, but it’s just too ideologically siloed. I’m quite left of center, but everyone on bluesky seems to be a caricature; the blue-haired loonies the right memes about. People there are seriously intolerant of anything other than their perceived orthodoxy. I don’t know what mad…

In terms of politics, yes. It's a bit like the worst of reddit. Nobody reads the article, everybody gets outraged in the same cliché way. If you try to provide nuance you get derided or blocked. (Blocking seems to be held in high esteem, which I think is also part of the problem.)

Building a social network with people in love with shared blocking lists is not a great recipe.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#98

Bluesky and Threads both have a fundamental issue in that their entire pitch is "We are like Twitter, but we are not run by Elon Musk, a Republican." Which only energizes the most radical, fringe, terminally online, who happen to be the ones that were most disliked on regular Twitter in the first place. When you whole pitch has zero appeal to 95% of people, its dead.

Musk is not just a republican, he's pushing far-right parties everywhere else in the world (plus, the "roman" thing). He's the textbook definition of why social networks should not have recommendation algorithms other than "chronological view of who you actively chose the follow".

He can say whatever he wants, but buying one of the biggest social network to push his ideology onto billions leaves "freedom of saying whatever one wants" territory to enter "let's buy elections by controlling what enter people's feeds".

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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I notice that the stat the article repeatedly quotes is MAU for usage of the mobile app, but one of the things I love about Bluesky is that you don’t need to use a mobile app to have a good UX. I use the mobile browser to access it, so I’m not in that MAU number. Perhaps bsky has a larger number of active users that don’t use the app?

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would be hard to gauge, X has a major bot problem, which Musk made big claims about combating but yet has failed to yield realistic results...

Elon bought X for the bot problem, not because of it.

Elon bought X the same reason Trump made Truth Social.
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