Completely agree. Incentives are for the statistical masses. As thinking individuals we can and should use our awareness and courage to make biggest "good" choices we can bear to. We can't all be zero-waste vegan community organisers lobbying for renewables and free education/healthcare, but I doubt living life with the blinders on leads any kind of moral or spiritual growth or fulfilment either.
I can’t totally tell if this is satire but we are all subject to incentives, even if (especially if?) we are aware of it.
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#92MANY people have dealt with terrible project managers and therefore assume all project managers are bad. This is because great project managers are very rare.
The same is true about incentive schemes. Most of them are improperly designed and/or get hit by Goodheart's law. [0]
As a counter point, this article [1] about designing incentives for farm labor is excellent and shows that with careful thought, incentives can dramatically increase output.
I've also been reading Deming's last book [2] and he is VERY against sales commissions. Some of this is probably bad design (e.g. 100% of the commissions for a sale go to one person) but I do feel he makes a valid point that everyone at a firm should benefit from helping the customer. Highly recommend it as an alternative to the more mainstream business books.
0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
1 - https://archive.is/https://slate.com/culture/2008/08/an-amaz...
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#94Jobs are the simplest and most striking example of incentives. "Do this and you will get money, which you can spend on food and shelter". Where a person living in abundance can choose to ignore monetary incentives, most people cannot. If you want to make behavior X be what a broad selection of people do, the only available way today is incentives. And a lot of problems we face today are exactly this sort of collectiv…
The exchange of labor for money will never outpace its own absurdity to become a natural law. We literally live in that world
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#95Experimental History is one of those few blogs that are a guaranteed read for me. I'll make time in the morning to read whatever he publishes. Thank you for sharing!
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#96This ties in with the Mental Immune System, and the Emotional Cost theory of perception.
Kudos for the fish analogy though, that's much better.
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#97I might be nitpicking -- it makes a lot of good points -- but this is the key idea, and I think it's important to get it right.
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#98Incentive systems often suffer from error and excessive lag between the output and the measurement of the output. This is a known problem in quality control. See Deming, the Toyota Production System, and continuous improvement. Even if you're measuring the desired output in a reasonable way, lag in that measurement will cause oscillation, and may prevent convergence. School grades and work performance reviews are examples of systems with high lag between output and the measurement of output. That happens even if the metrics are good, but not immediate.
If the measurement method is noisy, it may have to be filtered before use. This adds to lag. (Think about how a trailing moving average works.) Many incentive systems also have that property. School tests are intermittent noisy measurements filtered out by averaging.
These are known problems with incentive systems, but not well-known problems. Even if you're measuring the right thing, you can hit these problems.
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#99This is a key difference between Left and Right in the US. (He's writing before Trump, notice.) Once you see this, it's obvious. Strongly recommend the book.