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Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

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Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#91

If anybody was curious, the states that already had this prior to 2020 are: Maine, Vermont, and Florida Since 2020: Delaware, Hawaii, Montana, New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and West Virginia now also qualify. Montana is a bit of a surprise there... so is Oregon for me. Source: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2025/older-ad...

This is exactly what I was wondering, thank you! They kept saying 11 states already have this, but I couldn't figure out which 11.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#92
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15-minute neighborhoods with bike lanes are exactly the kinds of places good for raising kids in.

No, they're not. They are places where cities go to die. Walk in Tokyo and try to find children there.

there's a new urbanist community, walkable, bikelanes, etc.. in my part of the midwest and it's teeming with children.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#94

It's so frustrating that Social Security reform became the "are you a good progressive?" litmus test in the early 00s. We've had our wages tithed for our whole lives - money that would be actually worth something in retirement if invested - to go into a Ponzi scheme that will go bust before we're retirement age. You could see it coming decades away, and political infighting ensured nothing would be done about it unti…

We could actually hold our elected officials accountable for gutting Social Security instead. Then we wouldn't have to add "stock exchange expert" to our ever-growing list of job titles.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#95
Let’s consider this logically:

What kind of people will not wanting children likely select for?

At least two kinds come to mind:

1) People who love children and are willing to have them regardless of the impact on their financial situation.

2) People living in societies where women (and likely some men) lack a say in whether or not to have children.

The first kind could be very good.

The second is definitely not something we should look forward to.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#96
post #41

I think it’s time to bite the bullet and raise the retirement^W elder benefits eligibility age and peg it to life expectancy at birth minus 15 years or some structure like that. It’s fine that my generation will have to eat the loss - having paid for the past one but not benefiting as much from the coming ones. Some generation has to, and better us than them. As we get better at healthcare and life, we should expect…

We should establish UBI and universal health care, not tied to age, and then the concept of "retirement age" can go away.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why only women?

Can't exactly help out with childbirth if you don't have an uterus.

It isn't just about bringing a bunch of cells to term.

But if you want to oversimplify, why not government fund gestation vat technology? The main blocker for progressing on those right now appear to be self imposed.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#99

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Gettimg mixed signals. "Modest proposal" indicates satiricsl suggestion, but the words "this is going to be flagged to hell" indicates a serious proposal that is controversial. I might overthinking it, but some clarification either way would be nice.

To be completely honest with you, it's a bit of both. I realise that this idea is somewhat obnoxious, hence the gallows humour. At the same time, I genuinely don't think we have a way out of this that does not involve reforms we today would consider obnoxious.

Re: Adults over 65 will outnumber children by 2029

#100

> the arithmetic that supports those programs tightens, all else equal We can tax the rich, we're post scarcity, time to take a look at the rest of the world an come up with a better social safety net.

Why would I want to turn the country at the forefront of technology and innovation into a stagnating socialist welfare state like the countries you are holding up as role models?

Some day you might need the welfare. Not everyone is infinitely healthy for their entire lives.
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