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It's been flagged now. Upset too many Elon bots and fanboys.
>xAI Ignores Laws And Profits: Rules For Thee, Not For Me
To what it is now, as if this is just healthy competition.
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Hardly irrelevant. The purpose is establishing a pattern of abusive behavior so this can't be dismissed as a "misunderstanding".
Then show me a pattern of flouting regulations (which I can easily believe he has). His terrible views on unrelated issues are irrelevant.
I hate to sounds like I'm defending them... but that's like every startup. Taxi Pendants? Never heard of her - Uber/Lyft Gambling laws? Pssht - Polymarkets
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you don’t think “Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children“ is illegal somewhere/anywhere?
> you don’t think “Creating widespread non-consensual nude images of primarily women and children“ is illegal somewhere/anywhere? Are you reading any of my comments? I'm having trouble tying your question to anything I've said so far.
That's the topic here. You don't think someone flouting regulations on distribution of internet content won't flout data center regulations?
> In the latest example of corporations existing outside of the law, SpaceX (who is for some reason the controlling entity of xAI now) announced they'll be removing the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center... by July 2027. This is the thing the HN crowd doesn't seem to get whenever a post is on here about data centers. They are often times doing outright illegal…
> unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center Just a reminder that when you're building a business, having land and a datacenter ready and cannot be switched on, with idle staff, costs the business money. xAI could only draw 7-8MW from the grid and needed to run 10s of 1000s of H1000s. They shipped in 15 gas turbines as a more permanent onsite power plant while TVA/MLGW worked…
> the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center
Illegal. These turbines are illegal. What xAI under Musk's direction is doing is illegal. A business that must break the law to be practical isn't a business, it's a criminal organization operating by hurting people (which is WHY it's illegal to run gas turbines like this), and both it and those running it must be held accountable.
You're arguing that it's fine to break the law if it would otherwise cost a business money. I don't accept that, and nobody else in this community should either.
Anyway, happy to see the understanding reception here, I think it's worth continuing to drive home that these data centers have immediate impacts on the areas around them, which are disproportionately minorities and poor.
If you liked this article there's plenty more on my website, and feel free to ask any questions.
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> unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center Just a reminder that when you're building a business, having land and a datacenter ready and cannot be switched on, with idle staff, costs the business money. xAI could only draw 7-8MW from the grid and needed to run 10s of 1000s of H1000s. They shipped in 15 gas turbines as a more permanent onsite power plant while TVA/MLGW worked…
I'm going to be blunt; this is a wildly bad-faith argument. You started the quote right after the important word: illegal. > the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center Illegal. These turbines are illegal. What xAI under Musk's direction is doing is illegal. A business that must break the law to be practical isn't a business, it's a criminal organization operating…
No. Calling it illegal is just something people do because they hate musk. They fell into a loop hole and had no permits as they were technically allowed if they stayed in 1 spot for less than 364 days. EPA later determined they did not qualify and required permits, permits were later granted.
Musk operated in a grey area to run his business to avoid having an idle data center while other people dragged their feet.
I purposely cut off `illegal` because calling it `illegal` was bad faith to begin with. But it's not unexpected that musk haters will come out raising banners in protest.
While organisations are only ever hit with affordable financial penalties, it's rational for them to weigh up the likely penalty vs. the opportunity cost of not doing something illegal in their decision-making. If we want to prevent such behaviour (and in case it's not clear from the above, I think we should) then we either need far more brutally punative financial penalties, or for executives to be held personally a…
Something isn't really a big deal, it doesn't make sense to stick it to a company.
This is better at balancing the public interest of legal compliance against the public interest in the product the company provides.
It's basically the same trade-off with set in criminal punishments in general. If we made it it the death penalty for jaywalking or littering, we would have a lot less of it. Seems like a slam dunk right? Why don't we just do that?
> In the latest example of corporations existing outside of the law, SpaceX (who is for some reason the controlling entity of xAI now) announced they'll be removing the illegal, unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center... by July 2027. This is the thing the HN crowd doesn't seem to get whenever a post is on here about data centers. They are often times doing outright illegal…
> unpermitted gas turbines they've been running at their Memphis Colossus data center Just a reminder that when you're building a business, having land and a datacenter ready and cannot be switched on, with idle staff, costs the business money. xAI could only draw 7-8MW from the grid and needed to run 10s of 1000s of H1000s. They shipped in 15 gas turbines as a more permanent onsite power plant while TVA/MLGW worked…
Oh, right! This one was cheaper because it wasn't ready. Cheaper is gooder for business.
It's been flagged now. Upset too many Elon bots and fanboys.
Intersting that the title was also changed from the current top level header: >xAI Ignores Laws And Profits: Rules For Thee, Not For Me To what it is now, as if this is just healthy competition.