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Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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Imagine first thinking that humans are using Linux on the Desktop after seeing this (without specifying which distro) and then realizing that it is bots which are the "desktop users" because they are using Chrome to scrape websites since forever.

Only 1/3 of those are not "human".

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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> it's obvious that the future of MacOS is continued iOS-ification What’s an example of a specific iOS-indication in macOS that makes the OS worse?

Launchpad. It sucks on macOS. You can just not use it but it's there. Fullscreen apps and Spaces. My Mac isn't an iPad, but their window manager wants me to use it like one. Hidden scrollbars. App sandboxing.

> Hidden scrollbars.

System Settings | Appearance | Show Scroll bars | Always

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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I wasn't forced to use anything. This was in the mid-2010s when the first ARM Chromebook came out; I bought one out of curiosity. But I learned about it at work. Independent of that: some of the modern higher end Chromebooks can be quite nice, and you can (A) run general Linux on them, and (B) VS Code dev tunnel in the browser runs on them just as well as on any other laptop.

yeah i forgot about their linux capabilities they got. In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard but indeed if the hardware isn't bad it could be valid option now I think about it.

> In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard [...]

Well, that's also what a MacBook Air is. And a MacBook Neo is the same but with a phone's processor, instead of a tablet.

But that first tiny ARM Chromebook I tried in mid 2010s actually sucked a lot. It was cheap, though. It was the time of the netbook craze.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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That's because it is Linux, specifically Arch. All Linux is Linux.

Except for Android and ChromeOS. Nix is kinda weird too. But other than that, yeah.

If it uses the Linux kernel then it is Linux, that's where the name comes from. Android is no less Linux than RedHat or Debian is (when Debian is using Linux rather than FreeBSD kernel or Hurd, of course).

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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I recently googled the phrase "German Jews who voted for NSDAP" after seeing it mentioned in passing The AI overview contained the construction "Consensus on Reddit is..." What a time to be alive, I guess

Nevermind the AI crap, your search query requiring a disclaimer (“after seeing it mentioned in passing”) is more worrying than anything else.

What is the point of a sock puppet if you can't be explicit about what specifically you found worrying there? And I thought I was neurotic

Anyway recently I watched a video in which Alan Derschowitz compared Jews who voted for Mamdani to Jews who voted for the NSDAP. The ridiculousness of the comment aside, I was curious to what extent this was actually a thing. It did happen but it was a tiny number of fringe German nationalist Jews, Those who supported them regardless included Max Naumann, who went on to collaborate with the Nazi government as leader of the VnJ movement, through which he pushed for Jewish pacification and assimilation as an answer to antisemitism. There were others -- though vanishingly few -- who collaborated in various ways, with enthusiasm seemingly beyond what was coerced.

Those who were publicly Jewish usually ended up being targeted by the Nazi regime in the end regardless -- VnJ was outlawed and Naumann was picked up by the Gestapo a few years before he died of cancer. The Nazis viewed Jews as politically irredeemable so extensive collaboration was not generally sufficient to save anyone

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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I wasn't forced to use anything. This was in the mid-2010s when the first ARM Chromebook came out; I bought one out of curiosity. But I learned about it at work. Independent of that: some of the modern higher end Chromebooks can be quite nice, and you can (A) run general Linux on them, and (B) VS Code dev tunnel in the browser runs on them just as well as on any other laptop.

yeah i forgot about their linux capabilities they got. In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard but indeed if the hardware isn't bad it could be valid option now I think about it.

Beyond what was provided natively in ChromeOS, you could often get something like GalliumOS working on them. My old Chromebook was fairly painful to use as a Chromebook, but GalliumOS made it pretty snappy and fun. Unfortunately that project seems unmaintained now

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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You have to buy a Chromebook to run ChromeOS, right? You can install Linux on your PC as dual boot. The investment is far smaller. However you have to buy a Mac to run MacOS so maybe that means that a Chromebook is not a very compelling machine to buy, or has a limited use case.

I don't believe this for a moment. I have seen many more Chromebook users than desktop Linux users. Not individuals, but a lot of schools use Chromebooks where I am. They are probably not well-tallied in the results, because they are often used to do some work in Google Docs/Sheets, plus some education-specific sites and less browsing on the general web. I guess my point is that it is nearly impossible to get reliabl…

I never saw one on this side of the Atlantic Ocean (Europe) but I do see a few of them in the malls. I asked to a high school professor and she told me that she does not even know what a Chromebook is. She googled for it and "It's a kind of PC?"

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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yeah i forgot about their linux capabilities they got. In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard but indeed if the hardware isn't bad it could be valid option now I think about it.

> In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard [...] Well, that's also what a MacBook Air is. And a MacBook Neo is the same but with a phone's processor, instead of a tablet. But that first tiny ARM Chromebook I tried in mid 2010s actually sucked a lot. It was cheap, though. It was the time of the netbook craze.

Yeah but these MacBooks run MacOS, which is a fully fledged desktop OS compared to ChromeOS which looks and feels a lot more like Android and lacks features in some areas.

Re: Linux desktop market share has hit over 10% in North America

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post #94

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> In my mind they didn't seem a lot different than simple android tablets with a keyboard [...] Well, that's also what a MacBook Air is. And a MacBook Neo is the same but with a phone's processor, instead of a tablet. But that first tiny ARM Chromebook I tried in mid 2010s actually sucked a lot. It was cheap, though. It was the time of the netbook craze.

Yeah but these MacBooks run MacOS, which is a fully fledged desktop OS compared to ChromeOS which looks and feels a lot more like Android and lacks features in some areas.

ChromeOS is a Linux, and you can run anything Linux in them, including all the command line apps you like.
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