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Using an open model feels surprisingly good
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Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personally I've found Deepseek v4 Flash to be as useful to me as Opus. But I don't do these silly one shot tech demos. I have the technical understanding to ask for exactly the change I want with the right terminology. I loaded up some credit on openrouter and it took me ages to hit $1 in spend.
Which harness? I tried Kimi on Opencode Go and after an hour I hit my 5 hr limit and went back to Codex.
I was using the vscode copilot plugin with the bring your own api key from openrouter.
It doesn’t have any subscription or limits. You just load up api credits.
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#93This is an ad. I know the author has a long history here and I'm sure the post is a genuine reflection. But how is posting "I used my own product and it felt really good" anything other than self promotion?
Reminder, this post is also an ad:
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
The author works for a company that provides Kimi. It’s different. It doesn’t mean the post doesn’t accurately reflect the author’s views - it probably does. And the conflict of interest is well disclosed in the brief post. In fact, it’s quite natural for somebody who likes open models to work somewhere associated with them. So personally I don’t find any impropriety going on here - but yes, it’s an ad.
Huh? He says he works at Modal, not Moonshot. Are they connected?
I’ve edited my comment to be more accurate, thank you.
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#95I’ve enjoyed using Kimi K3. The biggest issue for me so far is finding a good harness. Claude Code is excellent for tasks that require backgrounding processes/agents, or fanning out. Codex and OpenCode I’ve found to be less capable.
I suspect FOSS will converge/create a best-in-class harness within the next 6 months or so. As will most (all?) software, the FOSS stuff somehow always ends up being way better than the closed source stuff.
In the fullness of time, LLMs will eventually become commodities and their price will be a race to the bottom. As the competitive advantage of one LLM over another shrinks - particularly as open source models expand - the value proposition will turn to the neuro/symbolic harnesses that use those models, structures that encompass agents, agent orchestration, tooling, and component plugins. Even those from frontier AI organizations will fall to open source frameworks. The last thing standing will be those who command the data centers on which these things run, and even then, that will become a commodity, with the number of players shrinking to just a few survivors. They too will find pressure: as computational power rises, more and more such systems will be run locally. - Grady Booch
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#96This is an ad. I know the author has a long history here and I'm sure the post is a genuine reflection. But how is posting "I used my own product and it felt really good" anything other than self promotion?
I mean, many posts on HN are self promotion; whether they reach the front page discerns the interesting ones from the ones that are not.
An interesting self promotion is still interesting.
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#97This is an ad. I know the author has a long history here and I'm sure the post is a genuine reflection. But how is posting "I used my own product and it felt really good" anything other than self promotion?
Why can't builders promote their products if it's truly good?
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#98The reason Claude code is so popular is because it’s really good at taking super vague human prose “Claude build me a million dollar SaaS”-type prompts and spitting out thousands of lines of code which cover tons of surface-level edge cases, build in tons of functionality, etc The smaller/open models are less good at that. But that’s not how software development is done. You don’t prompt a whole app and be done with…
Are local models more snappy? I'm at a stage where I can work with the output of LLMs, and the next win is really just getting things written out quickly.
Re: Using an open model feels surprisingly good
#99This is an ad. I know the author has a long history here and I'm sure the post is a genuine reflection. But how is posting "I used my own product and it felt really good" anything other than self promotion?
Why can't builders promote their products if it's truly good?
I don't have a problem with that if "truly good" is measured by something other than "feels good to me".
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