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Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by contactdq »

TZubiri wrote: post #27

I think telnyx is a good product, with the only stain to its name being the supply chain attack on their python library. But I don't feel like providing inference is a professional move, it feels like out of scope for a telephony IaaS company. Feels like a FOMO moment where a reputation of years is crashed in a couple of weekends of being drawn into a fad. And the fact that it's a chinese model doesn't quite help? I…

Yeah, the pypi thing sucked, and we've taken the necessary measures to prevent something like that from happening again.

We're moving past "telephony" and focusing on building more agentic primitives at the telecom edge.

This isn't a recent jump. We've been on this path for some time.

Disagree with you on the customer support side and re: decapitalization in general. People will want to talk to competent bots. We have people literally prompting our AI agents (which are capable of doing troubleshooting) in our shared Slack channels. You simply cannot beat the speed with which they can provide a quality response.

We remain committed to delivering the highest quality product at the lowest possible price point - across all of our product lines.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by contactdq »

LoganDark wrote: post #5

Telnyx was cool until they started demanding KYC. I would use them for burner phone numbers until they started saying they needed my government ID. Fuck that. OVH same thing. Tried to buy a VPS from them some years back and they said no VPS unless I provided ID. Would not refund me. Tried to dispute but my bank just gave me a credit instead.

We've been fighting this battle with the FCC. They tried fining us (and then dropped it), but they continue to push the issue via NPRMs. We generally think KYC is ineffective due to ID mules. It's obviously a privacy issue as well.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by ivanvanderbyl »

contactdq wrote: post #88
apexalpha wrote: post #59

Is this an ad? Why is this provider specifically on the front page? Also why is this not available over openrouter?

Co-founder/CEO here. Not sure how we got to the front page, but we'll take it. We've been trying to get on OpenRouter. Just reached out to their CEO. Would be great if people could request it as well. We're unique in that we have B300 in USA, EU, UAE, and AUS. Also, building out other agentic primitives like stateful actors (in beta, but will be rolled out globally in the coming weeks): https://developers.telnyx.com/…

Do you guys provide ZDR? We’ve been waiting for someone to offer inference in Sydney on decent GPUs for a while but we’ve got strict no logging or retention requirements.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by TZubiri »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #42
TZubiri wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bootleg AI

Is Claude bootleg AI? https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1e34tkr/why_is_clau...

I can see how, if all you ever were exposed to was that link and this post, you might think they are equivalent, and the conclusion is "whatever, everyone is stealing from each other.

But the answer is no, Claude didn't train itself on ChatGPT, but Kimi K3 did train itself on Claude.

There has been no accusation that I am aware of by OpenAI against Anthropic, (which are in the same jurisdiction, so it would amount to legal action). On the other hand there have been accusations with extensive detail by Anthropic on how chinese models are attacking Anthropic to reverse engineer and copy their product.

There's nuance if you care to see it, but maybe it's easier to pretend that everyone is ripping each other off so that you can consume a ripoff without seeing yourself as at fault.

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by dannyw »

brookst wrote: post #67
embedding-shape wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the model works correctly, you don't need to include the model name in the training process. You just add in the system prompt "You are X, trained by Y" and the model will claim to be that. That also allows users to "white-label" the outputs sort to say. This approach is basically how all "models know who they are" (they don't actually typically "know" that at all), it's just a system prompt instruction in the pla…

But I would expect they would at least use post-training to discourage identifying as the wrong company.

A lot of API customers don't want their chatbot or agent to identify as Claude or GPT, they want it to identify as .

Re: Kimi K3 Now Available via Telnyx Inference API

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Post by scotty79 »

dannyw wrote: post #99
brookst wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I would expect they would at least use post-training to discourage identifying as the wrong company.

A lot of API customers don't want their chatbot or agent to identify as Claude or GPT, they want it to identify as .

That's probably the true reason.
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