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Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by jamie_ca »

gruseom wrote: post #32

What's a good music player for OS X? I just want something simple that plays mp3s etc. and helps me manage my collection. Even before this redesign, iTunes was too bossy for me to like it. Is there something like Winamp when it was good?

If you manage your own MP3 directory structure, and like to just drag and drop onto a player to queue stuff up, try http://voxapp.didgeroo.com/

I don't think it has a _lot_ of playlist support, but if you already have the m3u files it'll load them just fine.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#92

Post by KC8ZKF »

pseut wrote: post #87
gurkendoktor wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Musicians make money from playing live It might be good advice economically, but IMHO it is also a tendency worth fighting, because it is so obviously unfair and limiting. What about artists (or genres!) that suck at giving live concerts? How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Bizarrely, soundtracks seem to have come to my rescue (for some genres) - where artists…

>How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Buy t-shirts, etc

Who the fuck would wear a Cecillia Bartoli or Yo-Yo Ma t-shirt?

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#93

Post by Adirael »

cobralibre wrote: post #70
joeguilmette wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a couple musicians, some of them earn enough to survive thanks to their art, most don't. I know that if I had talent I could create and distribute an album on my laptop and distribute it globally. We used to pay record labels for this. Now we pay them to stand in the way of artists and their fans. Regardless, musicians don't really make money from people listening to their music and never really have - unless…

"Musicians make money from playing live... This is the future of the industry." I see this sentiment repeated often. I don't buy it. It seems like a better way to put it is that if musicians are going to make money at all, then it must come from live performance. It certainly won't come from recordings, because more and more consumers don't want to pay for recordings, regardless of the practices of major labels, who…

Right now, with the social media and all this stuff, I find myself buying more music than ever. I never liked physical formats, I remember having MP2 audio files of all my favorite music and hating tapes and then CDs.

Last month I drop almost 40$ on a digital music compilation from an artist I like. He was selling it directly from his Facebook. It's not the first time and it wont be the last. He's selling some vinyls right now and just released the test presses on eBay. I don't even know if this guy has a record label or not, but he tours and probably edits all by himself.

I don't think playing live will be the only way musicians can make money (and a lot of them make dimes playing live as the promoters -usually the labels!- take all the money too).

You don't need to drop 10K month on studio anymore, you only need some equipment (that can be rented) and a computer to edit your music. Even some big bands are doing it this way nowadays.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#94

Post by yardie »

oofabz wrote: post #84
gurkendoktor wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> music existed before money ?? Before money, artists still needed food and shelter... > Yet, somehow, there have been professional musicians for likely thousands of years. But does anyone really want to go back to the patronage system?

I want to go back to the system where musicians are not rock stars trying to sell you a product, they are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment.

We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it? I want to go back to the system where musicians were rewarded with money to put invest into their next project. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think Spotify nor Pandora are the answer. My musician friends feel like it's the new Payola. They don't like to be on there because the royalties on 1000 plays is not even worth the postage. Yet, they can't afford not to be there because so many other musicians and listeners are using it.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#95

Post by dagw »

KC8ZKF wrote: post #92
pseut wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Buy t-shirts, etc

Who the fuck would wear a Cecillia Bartoli or Yo-Yo Ma t-shirt?

Market it right and a Cecillia Bartoli t-shirt will become the must have hipster fashion item for spring 2013.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#96

Post by weiran »

joeguilmette wrote: post #66
7402 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone casually states that he has an "80gb collection of pirated music," I assume he feels that the act of copying contrary to the wishes of the copyright holder is either a good thing or, at worst, ethically neutral. For those of us who disagree with this idea, it is important call out instances that seem to minimize the significance of this. By remaining silent, we help encourage behavior we disagree with. O…

I think that our pricing models for media are vestigial remnants of an era that suffered from a distribution problem. When I buy a $15 kindle ebook that is from a publishing house vs a $2 kindle ebook that is self published, I have a sense that the artist in both instances gets a similar amount of money - that is to say, the publishing house is what is making that book expensive. Same with music. The cost of producti…

Why are you the judge of a fair price?

Also if you disagree with the price, just don't buy it. It doesn't give you the moral justification to pirate it, at least admit that.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by dagw »

pseut wrote: post #87
gurkendoktor wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Musicians make money from playing live It might be good advice economically, but IMHO it is also a tendency worth fighting, because it is so obviously unfair and limiting. What about artists (or genres!) that suck at giving live concerts? How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Bizarrely, soundtracks seem to have come to my rescue (for some genres) - where artists…

>How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Buy t-shirts, etc

But most people have no need for dozens of over priced low quality t-shirt with some amateur graphic design scrawled all over it. Sure I could buy them to throw away simply as a round about way to donate money, but there must be a better business model out there.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#98

Post by [deleted] »

cobralibre wrote: post #70
joeguilmette wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a couple musicians, some of them earn enough to survive thanks to their art, most don't. I know that if I had talent I could create and distribute an album on my laptop and distribute it globally. We used to pay record labels for this. Now we pay them to stand in the way of artists and their fans. Regardless, musicians don't really make money from people listening to their music and never really have - unless…

"Musicians make money from playing live... This is the future of the industry." I see this sentiment repeated often. I don't buy it. It seems like a better way to put it is that if musicians are going to make money at all, then it must come from live performance. It certainly won't come from recordings, because more and more consumers don't want to pay for recordings, regardless of the practices of major labels, who…

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Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#99

Post by icebraining »

yardie wrote: post #94
oofabz wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to go back to the system where musicians are not rock stars trying to sell you a product, they are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment.

We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it? I want to go back to the system where musicians were rewarded with money to put invest into their next project. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think Spotify nor Pandora are the answer. My musician friends feel like it's the new Payola. They don't like to be on there because the royalties on 1000 pl…

We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it?

Nobody is demanding anything of artists; it's artists (well, mostly labels, but also some artists) that are demanding monopolies from society.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

#100

Post by objclxt »

oofabz wrote: post #84
gurkendoktor wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> music existed before money ?? Before money, artists still needed food and shelter... > Yet, somehow, there have been professional musicians for likely thousands of years. But does anyone really want to go back to the patronage system?

I want to go back to the system where musicians are not rock stars trying to sell you a product, they are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment.

> "I want to go back to the system where [musicians] are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment"

I am not sure this system ever existed, and I would be sad if it did. People have been writing music as their 'day job' since the 16th Century - the difference was their salaries were being paid by patrons rather than the general public.

A system where musicians have to spend 8 hours a day on a 'day job' rather than spending time improving their craft, composing, and playing doesn't sound like a very good system to me.

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