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An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by cindyllm »

PaulHoule wrote: post #52
donatj wrote: post #48

My biggest complaint about Photoshop is that every time CPUs have gotten faster, it's gotten slower. I've used it since the mid 1990s recreationally, early 2000s professionally. Every time I get a major CPU upgrade, it will be fast for a while, but with updates become slow again. This pattern has repeated over and over again. Most recently when I moved to Apple Silicon from an Intel Mac, I was excited how quickly eve…

It’s better than a lot of modern software. One reason I stick with it is I have a hobby of printing smaller formats like 4x6 cards and Photoshop and Epson Print Layout are the only programs that I have 100% control of all the printer and color management settings and exactly where the image winds up on the printer (e.g. managing the mechanical uncertainty). I don’t send work out to people who have better printers bec…

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Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by jkestner »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #16
dtagames wrote: post #7

Affinity, mentioned in the article, was acquired by Canva and had its entire UI redone to work just like Photoshop. It's also entirely free with no gotchas.

I paid for the entire Affinity suite in one shot, was worried when Canva took over, but glad to say everything's working together just fine.

When you say "everything's working", have you updated since Canva took over? I haven't, after happily paying for the whole suite every time they gave me a chance. Just wary. At some point, not being a profit center for Canva, the app is going to get more exploitative.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by swiftcoder »

cmyk_student wrote: post #78
swiftcoder wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems like a group of people expect us to be Photoshop and another group expects us to be MS Paint - and making one group happy (non-destructive editing, for instance) annoys the other group This feels like it would behoove the project to pick a lane and tell the users which one of these it is supposed to be. You have a worse experience for all by trying to keep both camps happy, and also ceding one of these ver…

We do - we state exactly what GIMP is and what we aim for. That doesn't stop people from having their own conceptions. The "more like MS Paint" group tends to be longtime users who often prefer the destructive editing approach of GIMP 2. We try to respect people who currently use the software, while also trying to implement new features as intended on the roadmap. Given the number of great open source art programs to…

> We do - we state exactly what GIMP is and what we aim for

Respectfully, I just re-read the gimp.org homepage, about page, and FAQ. The only relevant passage I found is the FAQ where it states that GIMP is not trying to be a photoshop replacement (but that people regularly misinterpret it as such).

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by jkestner »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #13
pauldoerwald wrote: post #12

Remarkably, they didn't even need vibe coding to drive their software into the toilet. Their decline started long before AI started writing code for us.

Pretty clear marketing killed PS when they went to a subscription model.

Now, I thought that going to a subscription model would give them the resources/motivation they needed to improve things regularly, and let us customers pay for just what we need. You're telling me the benefits only went one way?

I started with PS2.5. I held onto CS5 until I found Affinity.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by NoSalt »

I have a cure-all for difficult-to-cancel services ... cancel the credit card. I have done it before, and I will do it again if need be. And, I absolutely refuse to give any, ANY company my debit card number or bank account number. I want to be in charge of when my money leaves, and to whom it goes.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by graypegg »

medwards666 wrote: post #53
throw0101d wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also entirely free with no gotchas. How is this sustainable for a for-profit entity? How do they pay the bills/developers?

Presumably though Canva subscriptions? Shame it's only Mac/Windows compatible. I'd kill for a Linux build.

There's a community of folks maintaining some WINE tweaks to make it work! Thankfully, it's mostly just config options so nothing additional to install/run beyond WINE. I tend to use the V2 suite and on a mac, but I've got Affinity V3 installed on my ubuntu dev machine and had no issues with it when I've needed it.

https://github.com/seapear/AffinityOnLinux

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by microflash »

dtagames wrote: post #7

Affinity, mentioned in the article, was acquired by Canva and had its entire UI redone to work just like Photoshop. It's also entirely free with no gotchas.

> It's also entirely free with no gotchas.

Not true since it requires you to sign in with Canva account.

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by cmyk_student »

swiftcoder wrote: post #93
cmyk_student wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do - we state exactly what GIMP is and what we aim for. That doesn't stop people from having their own conceptions. The "more like MS Paint" group tends to be longtime users who often prefer the destructive editing approach of GIMP 2. We try to respect people who currently use the software, while also trying to implement new features as intended on the roadmap. Given the number of great open source art programs to…

> We do - we state exactly what GIMP is and what we aim for Respectfully, I just re-read the gimp.org homepage, about page, and FAQ. The only relevant passage I found is the FAQ where it states that GIMP is not trying to be a photoshop replacement (but that people regularly misinterpret it as such).

The first section after the recent news on the home pages says "High Quality Photo Manipulation: GIMP provides the tools needed for high quality image manipulation. From retouching to restoring to creative composites, the only limit is your imagination."

That seems clear enough to me about our focus, though one thing I've learned since I've started contributing is that whatever you think is clear enough, probably isn't! (Hopefully that doesn't come across as sarcastic - I mean it sincerely. I've helped out with writing news posts and been amazed at seeing how people interpret sections I thought were perfectly clear. It's been a learning experience!)

Re: An Infuriating Goodbye to Photoshop

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Post by medwards666 »

graypegg wrote: post #96
medwards666 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably though Canva subscriptions? Shame it's only Mac/Windows compatible. I'd kill for a Linux build.

There's a community of folks maintaining some WINE tweaks to make it work! Thankfully, it's mostly just config options so nothing additional to install/run beyond WINE. I tend to use the V2 suite and on a mac, but I've got Affinity V3 installed on my ubuntu dev machine and had no issues with it when I've needed it. https://github.com/seapear/AffinityOnLinux

Awesome. Have starred the repo and will have a look through it later tonight when I'm done with work.
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