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You can do this up to a point but if it looks like you're actually making a profit it might raise questions eventually. Keeping enough to cover one year's operating costs is pretty common though.
God forbid a non-profit try and compete honestly
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God forbid a non-profit try and compete honestly
Non-profits usually don't "compete" at least in the economic sense. They exist for a charitable purpose that isn't normally well-served by the competitive market.
Second, of course zero-margin processes have an economic role. That is what market efficiency looks like. The entire point of competition is to produce these economic processes. The american brain can't fathom getting their money's worth lol
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Non-profits usually don't "compete" at least in the economic sense. They exist for a charitable purpose that isn't normally well-served by the competitive market.
First of all, charity is a christian concept that has no role in modern secular society. Anything worth doing out of the kindness of our hearts is worth doing collectively without expecting individuals do disproportionately sacrifice. Second, of course zero-margin processes have an economic role. That is what market efficiency looks like. The entire point of competition is to produce these economic processes. The ame…
What are you saying here? Like, how are you distinguishing individual charity from the thing "worth doing collectively"? Presumably you don't consider individuals voluntarily giving and thus voluntarily organizing insofar as they coordinate to be the same as collective action, so I can't help but wonder which part is different, and I worry it's the voluntary bit....
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#94All data centers that are in controversial areas should offer free heated swimming pools for the neighborhood. You could add a giant pool complex as a percentage or two of the cost of a big data center.
and AI deniers were saying we were gonna get boiled like frogs, instead we got free heated swimming pools, wait a minute ...
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
First of all, charity is a christian concept that has no role in modern secular society. Anything worth doing out of the kindness of our hearts is worth doing collectively without expecting individuals do disproportionately sacrifice. Second, of course zero-margin processes have an economic role. That is what market efficiency looks like. The entire point of competition is to produce these economic processes. The ame…
> Anything worth doing out of the kindness of our hearts is worth doing collectively without expecting individuals do disproportionately sacrifice. What are you saying here? Like, how are you distinguishing individual charity from the thing "worth doing collectively"? Presumably you don't consider individuals voluntarily giving and thus voluntarily organizing insofar as they coordinate to be the same as collective ac…
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
First of all, charity is a christian concept that has no role in modern secular society. Anything worth doing out of the kindness of our hearts is worth doing collectively without expecting individuals do disproportionately sacrifice. Second, of course zero-margin processes have an economic role. That is what market efficiency looks like. The entire point of competition is to produce these economic processes. The ame…
> Anything worth doing out of the kindness of our hearts is worth doing collectively without expecting individuals do disproportionately sacrifice. What are you saying here? Like, how are you distinguishing individual charity from the thing "worth doing collectively"? Presumably you don't consider individuals voluntarily giving and thus voluntarily organizing insofar as they coordinate to be the same as collective ac…
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about in swimming centers in England but I do know YMCAs in the US often have budgets that look like: - Revenue: $25.01M - Expenses: $25M So "small savings" like this can add up for them.
This is mostly just due to how nonprofits work. If you have excess revenue, you can’t return it to shareholders so you might as well spend it on mission-oriented activities.
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#98What a useless article! I found some actual information here: https://www.techspot.com/news/97995-data-center-uses-waste-h... The "data center" produces about 28 kW of heat and the swimming pool has cut its gas bill by 62%. They are saving US$24,000 per year.
So not even a single rack by modern standards.
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#99Something I have been wondering: Why don't data centres use the excess heat for a sort of energy recuperation, turning at least some of it back into electricity?