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"As part of Merz's proposals, from January next year, workers will no longer be able to get a sick note over the phone. They must visit a doctor in person and on the first day of illness." Can't wait to share the sbahn with feverish people or seeing a live diarrhea attack.
I don’t understand Merz’s obsession with this sick leave topic, like this is going solve the economic crisis in Germany and calling people lazy will score points with voters? Fun fact: research shows it’s probably not better or worse than before, just more rigorously reported through a new digital system since couple years (before that people needed to send paper slip notes to their employers and insurance, which som…
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>In the USA the most untrustworthy [...] are employers [...]tyranny of the untrustworthy (employers) Have you ever been an employer? Like if being a trustworthy employer is so easy why aren't you and many other people doing it to set an example? How come all employers are tyrannical? IMHO your blame is misplaced. A lot of the issues you point out are not due to employers, but due to government regulations or lack the…
Why are you defending/waiving away wage theft? Not stealing from people and following the law is the absolute minimum an employer can do. It is not the governments fault when you break the law. Should it be ok for an employee to steal because someone else stole from work? Because society is complex and hard and has rules and laws but can't police everything 24/7? I've been an employer. I've been a manager. My family…
I'm not, and since you started the argument in bad faith with things I never said, I will stop talking to you there because obviously there's no point to it and I'm wasting my time and energy on you.
why are governments always trying to find something to fuck over the working class?
Now I work in Germany. Vacation and sick leaves here are... very generous. In fact I'm writing this while on vacation. In my company it's often hard to set up a meeting with 4+ people because for months in advance at least 1-2 are on vacation.
I don't want to express any opinion on this.
One interesting thing is how people here say "work smarter, not harder". I don't know how they imagine China, but I promise you people work smart AND hard there.
The results are obvious.
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>In the USA the most untrustworthy [...] are employers [...]tyranny of the untrustworthy (employers) Have you ever been an employer? Like if being a trustworthy employer is so easy why aren't you and many other people doing it to set an example? How come all employers are tyrannical? IMHO your blame is misplaced. A lot of the issues you point out are not due to employers, but due to government regulations or lack the…
Why are you defending/waiving away wage theft? Not stealing from people and following the law is the absolute minimum an employer can do. It is not the governments fault when you break the law. Should it be ok for an employee to steal because someone else stole from work? Because society is complex and hard and has rules and laws but can't police everything 24/7? I've been an employer. I've been a manager. My family…
"As part of Merz's proposals, from January next year, workers will no longer be able to get a sick note over the phone. They must visit a doctor in person and on the first day of illness." Can't wait to share the sbahn with feverish people or seeing a live diarrhea attack.
I had a migraine attack recently; I was able to call my doctor and have him write a sick note for a day over the phone and have it transmitted digitally to my employer. What the fuck would be the point of tormenting myself for half an hour on a noisy public bus in bright daylight in the middle of summer, the waiting in a bright room for half an hour, wait at the bus stop in bright daylight for up to an hour for the n…
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Even more than a day is terrible. If I have a cold or the flu, the last thing I want to do is to go to the doctor. I'd rather just rest up, it goes away in 3-5 days and I can be back at work. The need for a doctor's notes means one of: * I explain to my employer, probably don't get paid for those days, and might face disciplinary action or eventually get fired * I go to the doctor, making my recovery less likely, inc…
> it goes away in 3-5 days and I can be back at work. Sitting 5 days at home without a doctor seeing you on the basis of "trust me bro it's just a flue it will pass soon" also seems dangerous since plenty of people suck at self diagnosing themselves and end up more sick or even dead by ignoring major issues thinking it's something small that will pass. And that's besides the trust part where people are gonna exploit…
If the problem is one of trust, work on that. Forcing a sick person to leave the house and expose themselves and everyone else along their way to new pathogens just because you don't trust them is hardly a net positive for anyone.
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> it goes away in 3-5 days and I can be back at work. Sitting 5 days at home without a doctor seeing you on the basis of "trust me bro it's just a flue it will pass soon" also seems dangerous since plenty of people suck at self diagnosing themselves and end up more sick or even dead by ignoring major issues thinking it's something small that will pass. And that's besides the trust part where people are gonna exploit…
How about not? If you think your employee is lying too much about being sick, perhaps have a conversation? Establish trust? If it doesn't work out, require a doctor's note, and eventually fire them. If the problem is one of trust, work on that. Forcing a sick person to leave the house and expose themselves and everyone else along their way to new pathogens just because you don't trust them is hardly a net positive fo…
That's ... exactly what I was saying. How long is your context window that you missed that?
If you're sick longer than X days, go see a doctor, for your own safety first, then for the note to your employer.
>Establish trust?
How? Trust goes both ways. If you trust someone and they don't reciprocate and abuse it for personal gain, then there's nothing left to establish, you just got robbed plain and simple, there's no trust there anymore. Trust is very hard to earn and very easily to lose. Mandating a note is simple "trust but verify" and removes any and all suspicions and accusations ensuring a level playing field for both parties.
>If the problem is one of trust, work on that.
Why should you be working on trust when you're the one being scammed? That's like telling the store who got robbed they should work on trust.
> Forcing a sick person to leave the house
No, you're right, they should just get to sit at home as long as they want with no medical oversight until it gets worse, or they end up at the ER, or they get bored of playing videogames, with much higher costs to both themselves and the health and labor system.
"As part of Merz's proposals, from January next year, workers will no longer be able to get a sick note over the phone. They must visit a doctor in person and on the first day of illness." Can't wait to share the sbahn with feverish people or seeing a live diarrhea attack.
People who call in sick by phone aren't sick