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Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by Andrex »

Havoc wrote: post #89

That's nice but it's on google's broken AI studio thing. I can't use half the stuff on there because it requires a Google One account. Which I'm ineligible for because I'm on a workspace account. Can I switch? No, because Google One doesn't support own domains. So I need to run (AND PAY!) two accounts to have both a nice email address and Banana? Starting to think the correct number of paid google accounts here is ze…

Yeah I'm kinda in the same position. I pay for both One and Workspace for myself and not sure which to use for some of this stuff. I mostly default to my personal account since it has more context, but then bringing in stuff from the Workspace Drive/etc. is an extra few steps.

And some stuff like Project Genie is just flat out unavailable on Workspace which seems weird to me.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#92

Post by jtbayly »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #60
Ajedi32 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that fall under existing false advertising laws, if you're putting fake/altered images in the listing?

It should, I would assume. But for some reason, it seems nobody is enforcing consumer protections like they used to. Pretty soon they'll take the stickers off mowers warning people to not put their hand under it while it's running. The world isn't in a good place...

I mean, what’s the problem with taking such stickers off? I’d love if it we had fewer retarded warnings. And I fail to see how they have anything to do with enforcing consumer protections.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#93

Post by hbn »

andersonpico wrote: post #90
hbn wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There needs to be lawsuits over stuff like that. I don't get why people accept blatant false advertising just cause the tech used to do it is new. They may as well be uploading pictures of a real, nicer apartment with a similar layout. What's the difference?

The difference is you'll get caught a luddite and hear you're opposing progress if you try to get in the way of AI doing any and everything.

I don't think that matters in a court of law.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by rwyinuse »

etdznots wrote: post #28
psygn89 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that should be illegal and misrepresenting. Lots of gray area with AI usage.

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I think the real issue here is lack of progress in AR technology. Tenants may be disappointed by the difference between marketing material and reality, but that can be easily solved by AR glasses that the tenants can wear 24/7 to make the apartment look just like in marketing material, perhaps for a small monthly subscription fee. It's cheaper than renovation, that's for sure.

Mark Zuckerberg should take note.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#95

Post by SV_BubbleTime »

vunderba wrote: post #63
throwaway2027 wrote: post #61

I loved Nano Banana Pro. Are there local alternatives yet? I heard about Qwen Image, Klein and recently Krea, any suggestions?

Krea-2 is fantastic. If you can get around the restrictive license, output speed, and JSON prompting, Ideogram 4 probably comes the closest to SOTA models. See my profile for GenAI Showdown, where it's benched against other local and proprietary models. It actually scored above Gemini 2.5 (aka the original NB) which is pretty impressive.

Public AI benchmarks are fucking stupid and can be completely ignored. Too gamed.

However, your advice is right. KREA2 and Ideogram4. The latter being less commercially usable without what I would surely assume is a pain in the ass.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#97

Post by vunderba »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #95
vunderba wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Krea-2 is fantastic. If you can get around the restrictive license, output speed, and JSON prompting, Ideogram 4 probably comes the closest to SOTA models. See my profile for GenAI Showdown, where it's benched against other local and proprietary models. It actually scored above Gemini 2.5 (aka the original NB) which is pretty impressive.

Public AI benchmarks are fucking stupid and can be completely ignored. Too gamed. However, your advice is right. KREA2 and Ideogram4. The latter being less commercially usable without what I would surely assume is a pain in the ass.

To a degree.

There are plenty of well-known public tests that have been around since SD 1.5 that I'd have to say if companies are trying to "game" they’re failing pretty badly (wine glass filled to the brim, the inverted piano, the nine-pointed star, etc.)

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#98

Post by dylan604 »

dgacmu wrote: post #52
torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

Accepting 100% that it should be in some way deemed unacceptable (socially or legally) to fake what an apartment actually looks like, I did find using an image model really helpful in making design choices for my bathroom remodel. Mostly about whether to tile certain things where we couldn't quite visualize ourselves what the effect on the entire space would be.

There's a big difference of someone using the tool to make design decisions for work they are actually going to implement vs someone using the same tool to make one think it has already been done

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

#99

Post by Havoc »

Andrex wrote: post #91
Havoc wrote: post #89

That's nice but it's on google's broken AI studio thing. I can't use half the stuff on there because it requires a Google One account. Which I'm ineligible for because I'm on a workspace account. Can I switch? No, because Google One doesn't support own domains. So I need to run (AND PAY!) two accounts to have both a nice email address and Banana? Starting to think the correct number of paid google accounts here is ze…

Yeah I'm kinda in the same position. I pay for both One and Workspace for myself and not sure which to use for some of this stuff. I mostly default to my personal account since it has more context, but then bringing in stuff from the Workspace Drive/etc. is an extra few steps. And some stuff like Project Genie is just flat out unavailable on Workspace which seems weird to me.

Yeah I've already got a game plan - move the email to proton & sign up for claude to replace gemini search/chat...which I do use heavily. Works out more expensive but claude pro seems to include a little coding agent usage too. Already have one of those (GLM) but a bit of anthropic allowance would be nice

The problem is extracting oneself from google is non-trivial. That must be a decade of emails...

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by dotancohen »

strulovich wrote: post #48
torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

Where I live (NYC) putting altered images like that has been the norm for more than a decade. It’s just used to be more expensive to hire someone to do it for you. The altered images always e free stirs the same bright walls and grey magazine style furniture. AI is just making it cheaper, but this was bound to happen. (Images altered this way do have a small watermark stating so)

  > e free stirs
Features? Which TTS are you using? I was until recently using Gboard but it's been getting unusable lately.
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