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US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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or wait for the bubble to burst and come out on top.

This. The US is playing the right move with solar panels, wait for the bubble to burst and then swoop in. Let China take the early losses.

Lol that is like saying let's wait AI out, not build fabs, TMSC will sell em cheap in 2030!

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Ban, limits, and regulation won’t solve a country with too many worker protections. The EU simply can’t compete in the modern globalized world.

slashing worker protections would do what exactly?

Tbf it could reduce hiring friction and make it easier to take a chance on a riskier hire. Also makes it easier for workers to change jobs, notice periods here can be outright insane (3 months in some cases) and even as an employee I hated them.

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A speech is the definition of a hypothetical. I can show you a million Trump speeches that "show" the opposite. Something tells me you wont take those as gospel for some reason. >It's not like trade deals are ripped up over night Oh really? I thought we're ABOUT to find out what it's like to have no allies or business partners? Weird! >it's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect Ah, the magic "it's happening bu…

False equivalency. Trump constantly says whatever he wants in plain contradiction to verifiable facts: The strait is open! We win the war! I’m not in the Epstein files!

Those may be the facts now, but not forever. It's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect. That doesn't mean what he's saying is not about to come true.

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The EU should cut all ties with the US, tax US products and impose costly (and difficult to get) visas to American citizens wanting to visit. It won't do any of this because it has no balls and no vision. We're doomed and it's our fault.

Europeans should cut ties with their own fascist, Russian sympathizers leading the polls first, then worry about Americans.

We can and should do both at the same time

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False equivalency. Trump constantly says whatever he wants in plain contradiction to verifiable facts: The strait is open! We win the war! I’m not in the Epstein files!

Those may be the facts now, but not forever. It's gonna take a while to have noticeable effect. That doesn't mean what he's saying is not about to come true.

You mean that one day all the Epstein files will change to no longer contain countless mentions of Trump?

How do you supposed this will happen? Through destruction of evidence or the invention of a Time Machine to warn his younger self?

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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The EU keeps trying to manifest the missing european data infrastructure via data regulation instead of outright bans and limits on american companies, the way China did it.

Ban, limits, and regulation won’t solve a country with too many worker protections. The EU simply can’t compete in the modern globalized world.

The EU isn’t a country, which is exactly why things are lacking vision and feel confusing. The EU is actually too decentralized and fragmented for its own good, contrary to what people whine about. We need more federalism, and an actual single market

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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Switching to EU companies is often the solution, but also we're in a tricky position in Europe since alternatives exist but can't compete with US. So finding European alternatives is possible but hard. Also EU is doing its job enforcing privacy and anti-competition laws but then American companies just say "feature not available in EU" (like Apple is doing more and more for example), making things even harder to swit…

This is even worse. For instance, in a medical university, we recently were told we need a smartphone and install an app from Google store (!!!), in order to read emails sent out by officials at the medical university. I protested to that but they had a deal already with the private company and their signature meant they had to keep on being addicted to that private company, so now I am locked out of receiving emails…

Which is exactly the point of the whole "sovereignty" debate: on one hand there's a lot of slop about "national interest" and "privacy" and "features" and such, and on the other hand management decides for whoever offers something (anything) cheaper and with a golf tournament on top. And then everybody moans and complains about the situation.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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or wait for the bubble to burst and come out on top.

The internet is a fad and will pass any day now.

Current AI companies with trillion USD valuations, models which costed them billions USD to train and now have total addressable market few hundred approved entities are very close to being a fad.

Re: US Supreme Court Just Blew Up EU-US Data Transfers

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So the US Supreme Court is doing here more and better for EU citizens (!!!) than the EU commission and EU courts are. Because the EU officials constantly keep on lying to EU citizens how our data is safe in the USA, which it clearly is not, even aside from Trump's brown shirts, the ICE snipers that have already killed US citizens in shootings. The world is a very strange place, but one good thing is that Trump's crim…

The US supreme court is correcting the lies the American government made when they assured the EU and its citizens that they can be trusted with their data. It's not just the EU lying, both sides are awful at this.

I don't know why the EU wants to trust the USA so bad, it's clearly unwise. It makes sense, because banning EU companies from using AWS/GCP/etc. would bankrupt the EU into a recession, but the way they're going about these things is very annoying.

That said, if the USA would actually keep its promises and adopt legislation that solves the reasons why the EU cannot give out a decent competency decision, the problem would go away entirely.

The Biden administration set up a precarious body within the government to resolve the issue rather than go through the normal lawmaking process, probably because it wouldn't go through.

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