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Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by DANmode »

ryandrake wrote: post #78
reaperducer wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…

Why can't normal people send companies to collections for refusing to pay debts?

Savvy folks have their paperwork in order, and simply send the Sheriff to take their stuff if they won’t pay.

Often no % required.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by reaperducer »

_V_ wrote: post #88
reaperducer wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a web requires me to do this to access it, I simply refuse. A friend of mine recently tried to get a payment from an insurance policy. But the New York Life web site wouldn't work right. She ended up talking to someone on the phone eventually and they told her it's her fault, because Safari isn't supported. Only Chrome and Edge. Her choice was to install Chrome, or walk away from $35,000. You may "just refuse," bu…

Do you really believe that you can discharge a debt of $35,000 simply by saying "I don't support Safari" to your creditor? I would not try that tactic with a bank, I can tell you that much. I would still refuse and force them to send the money through snail mail.

Do you really believe that you can discharge a debt of $35,000 simply by saying "I don't support Safari" to your creditor?

Insurance companies are notorious for making it very hard for people to collect money from policies. They are well known for making things deliberately hard so people will give up.

I'd love to see you "force" a massive insurance company to do anything without a lawyer. Real life is not the same as talking big on the internet.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by _V_ »

reaperducer wrote: post #92
_V_ wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really believe that you can discharge a debt of $35,000 simply by saying "I don't support Safari" to your creditor? I would not try that tactic with a bank, I can tell you that much. I would still refuse and force them to send the money through snail mail.

Do you really believe that you can discharge a debt of $35,000 simply by saying "I don't support Safari" to your creditor? Insurance companies are notorious for making it very hard for people to collect money from policies. They are well known for making things deliberately hard so people will give up. I'd love to see you "force" a massive insurance company to do anything without a lawyer. Real life is not the same a…

I don't see the problem.

The last time insurance company tried to BS their way out of the insurance payout, I actually did get the lawyer involved and I successfully got them to admit fault and pay up.

Standing up for myself and doing something IRL feels quite good. You do you.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by codingdave »

altairprime wrote: post #85
codingdave wrote: post #51

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> This is a company whose business runs on gathering and monetizing personal data Seems like they covered your points just fine. They just did it succinctly and trusted the reader to understand the broader implications.

They don't trust the reader to 'understand the broader implications' in their other posts. For example: https://reclaimthenet.org/the-house-just-voted-for-kosa > If you’ve been following our updates, you’ll know the accountability positioning hides the actual design. The bill defines “know” or “knows” to mean “to know or should have known,” and that phrase runs through sections covering platforms, AI chatbots, and ga…

The article you linked is by a different author. It is completely reasonable for different authors to have different writing styles.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by altairprime »

codingdave wrote: post #94
altairprime wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't trust the reader to 'understand the broader implications' in their other posts. For example: https://reclaimthenet.org/the-house-just-voted-for-kosa > If you’ve been following our updates, you’ll know the accountability positioning hides the actual design. The bill defines “know” or “knows” to mean “to know or should have known,” and that phrase runs through sections covering platforms, AI chatbots, and ga…

The article you linked is by a different author. It is completely reasonable for different authors to have different writing styles.

I remain unpersuaded.

Re: Google's New reCAPTCHA Wants Your Camera Access and 21 Points of Your Hand

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Post by m463 »

Cider9986 wrote: post #9

I saw a post on the GrapheneOS forum of someone who was accosted by Google with this requirement, so they are certainly using it. It's interesting the parallels of Google's recaptcha and Cloudflare turnstile. Cloudflare is free, no image selector, allows VPNs and Tor for the most part, just 0 click with a good ip reputation and 1 click with a bad one. Recaptcha is paid, trains waymos, sucks millions of hours of human…

Cloudflare routinely denies me access to many websites - I get "turn on javascript and cookies" and then get an "old browser" denial.

I even get "Sorry." logging onto HN from time to time (which I think is cloudflare). It usually works again the next day.

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