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Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by alcasa »

CiTyBear wrote: post #36

Personal experience with Jolla: I bought their first mobile (still have it somewhere) that would be a "Linux Phone that run android app". Wanted to support it and was ready to expect some bugs but it did not work all. No support at all, most of android app did not work. The OS was not finished that it was already obsolete. And now there are doing it again like the first one never existed. I have zero trust in this co…

I used it as a daily driver back in 2014/15 and it worked ok from what I remember.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by bilekas »

microtonal wrote: post #76
axelthegerman wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately for the foreseeable future you'd need a cheap Android or iOS device for those apps and whatever you want as daily driver. I don't think you NEED to open your online banking on your phone every day. Just use cash and cards. 2FA should be easily available on any OS

I don't think you NEED to open your online banking on your phone every day. Just use cash and cards. That's an overgeneralization. In many countries online payments require approval through a smartphone. There are also banks that barely have a mobile banking website (e.g. Bunq last time I had it).

Yup. Which I like, but not the lock in. Anything over 100€ I have set to manually approve by the app. Also if I need to quickly transfer some cash to my current account, who I do regularly enough, I'm a bit out of luck.

I've not heard of a bank in the last while that doesn't have the restrictions, at least in Ireland and Italy.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by Uncle_Brumpus »

poetaster wrote: post #56
bilekas wrote: post #22

I like the idea of these new phones that might be a bit more privacy centered, and even with some different OSes but I think the biggest problem for a lot of adoption is the compatibility with things like banking apps, 2fa etc. It makes it quite an impossible daily driver thanks to some strange rules.

2FA is not an issue. Many, but not all banking apps work fine. I have an android phone for 3 apps which I need about once a month. Daily driving a linux phone since 2016.

I get all my 2FA through SMS or a Yubikey. It took a bit of wrangling from corporate IT, but it was "Get my yubikey or SMS working or buy me a company phone and pay for service that I won't use for anything else"

I never really did a lot of banking on my phone before, but it really wasn't that hard to let that go. I'd say the biggest hangup is not having Venmo or something for splitting bills with friends, yard-sales, etc, but I've started carrying some amount of cash again for those instances and it's worked out alright.

Been daily driving a dumbphone since 2023. Yes it takes a bit of work, but it's so SO worth it.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by derdi »

poetaster wrote: post #44
CiTyBear wrote: post #36

Personal experience with Jolla: I bought their first mobile (still have it somewhere) that would be a "Linux Phone that run android app". Wanted to support it and was ready to expect some bugs but it did not work all. No support at all, most of android app did not work. The OS was not finished that it was already obsolete. And now there are doing it again like the first one never existed. I have zero trust in this co…

I still have my first Jolla from 2016. Still works and got updates till 2 years ago. The android stuff I used was minimal but worked fine except for bluetooth and nfc. I build my own mostly.

I still have my first Jolla from 2014, I used it until... 2022-ish? My main gripe was that RAM was limited, the OOM killer killed my browser way too often while I was actively using it. I didn't use too much Android stuff, but as far as I remember it mostly worked. I'd expect this new one to work just fine.

The thing that sounds really fishy is the "User configurable physical Privacy Switch". If you can configure it in software (how else?), then it's software-defined. If it's software-defined, then it's not physical.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

Is there anybody out there making a thin client device that runs almost everything remotely?

Basically a screen, battery and LTE chip with microSD storage for times

The way most people use phones are functionally useless without internet, so thats already a critical requirement and having the “phone” part of it you can do with 5c of hardware and free software.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by zuzululu »

badgersnake wrote: post #82
zuzululu wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about European companies? There are already many companies in Russia doing extremely well like Korean and Japanese companies

European or American. Currently Russia is sanctioned so it’s illegal to do business there. If it were legal they would be straight back.

Ah I forgot about that. I don't think Russians will allow those companies to return for a very long time. When all the Western companies left the huge markets across verticals were handed out to local and east asian companies.

Russians hate the West and the incumbents know it. If Western companies started to muscle in again they would drop the price to protect their market shares.

Kind of silly to give up your entire market share over an unwinnable war.

reply to below: I had to add the rebuttal to your racist comment earlier (which you ironically deleted) by editing this comment, because I am being throttled and cannot reply to anymore comments.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by seviu »

I ordered two in the September batch, which was way less expensive.

Jolla phones are fine. I have friends who use it every day. Happy to support them all the best I can.

—— Sent from my iPhone 17 Pro

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by tombert »

xandrius wrote: post #9

I hope Ubuntu Touch has native support for this, as it's a great OS with massive potential and active community.

I really wanted the official Ubuntu phone to catch on. I gave to the IndieGoGo for it but sadly it wasn't funded, so I installed Ubuntu mobile on a different old phone (a OnePlus One I think?) like a decade ago.

I thought it was very cool. It felt a lot more like a "computer that I could use as a smartphone" than a "smartphone with some computer stuff". I thought the interface was clean and nice and it was fun to hack on.

I really should buy a compatible phone and play with it again...I'm sure they've done a lot of work on it.

Re: Jolla Phone (October 2026)

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Post by fabrice_d »

bri3d wrote: post #61
mrbn100ful wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The compositor is open (Lipstick) : https://github.com/sailfishos/lipstick And OSS projet based on the SFOS core exist : https://nemomobile.net/ , https://github.com/nemomobile-ux

Ahh, thanks for the correction, it's the window manager that's closed (lipstick-jolla-home). Regardless, I will stand by my statement that a fully open-source build of AOSP is significantly more complete and useful than a fully open-source build of Jolla. If we're going to start counting forks, we get to count LineageOS and GrapheneOS for Android, and then the goalposts really move.

A pure AOSP distribution is now lacking a lot of basic apps. Distributions like LineageOS or GrapheneOS fill the gap with their own, but pure AOSP is totally unusable.
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