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California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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Because real estate is super expensive because everyone keeps moving there?

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Nah I haven't been in California, or lived in the US, since COVID. My reaction here could easily be outdated but I have it because even back then people would say basically exactly what you were saying despite the clear evidence of high demand.

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Why does California since Arnold left office feel the need to regulate above the average other states regulate? [in fairness gov Brown would veto some of the crazier ideas that arrived at his desk] Why do the pols feel like they have to pick fights in so many places? I doubt there’s a majority of voters who want this.

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Are 3D-printed guns even remotely reliable, or is it just a moral panic? A brass tube and a pin is probably less likely to fail than 3d printed materials.

I heard a billionaire is funding this, he’s probably afraid of the one famous instance of someone like him getting killed by one of those.

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Photocopiers and printers have included anti-counterfeiting tech for decades, so there is precedent for this kind of thing. And this is addressing a real growing problem: https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/santa-rosa-167-gun... https://da.santaclaracounty.gov/da-task-force-seizes-ghost-g... https://www.vvng.com/3d-printed-firearm-recovered-after-man-...

Until America bans actual guns I don't want to hear about the "growing problem" of 3D printed guns.

The establishment is desperate to create/maintain moats to maintain hegemony over society

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I can't tell if this is a joke or a serious question.

I'm seriously questioning the absurdity of banning something that remains available a 15-minute drive away, behind a purely informal border. I don't think, for example, that recent abortion bans had reduced the number of abortions in their respective states to zero.

US states aren't as small as you're imagining them to be. Almost everyone in California lives more than 15 minutes away from the nearest state border, and the largest urban areas are 3+ hours away.

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Why does California since Arnold left office feel the need to regulate above the average other states regulate? [in fairness gov Brown would veto some of the crazier ideas that arrived at his desk] Why do the pols feel like they have to pick fights in so many places? I doubt there’s a majority of voters who want this.

Well, from the point of view of Californian politicians, was it their anti-balance-billing AB72 that was over-regulation before No Surprises Act? Or the CCPA? Or the Auto-Renewal Law? And looking back even farther: was it CalOPPA that was overreach requiring privacy policies? Paid family leave and sick leave? Some made life hard for Californians like the CARB gasoline blend requirement but I think if you proposed rem…

They have passed decent laws like the privacy law although my preference would be a nation-wide law for this to benefit all Americans.

That said these politicians have pushed:

The ban on disinfectant soaps

Stop Shirley bill (charge you for public records in order to suppress access to public information)

Effort to sideline charter schools by teachers unions

Reduced sentences for murderers (this isn't unarmed robbery, etc., rather murderers)

Per mile traveled tax (for a state with the highest gas prices in the lower 48)

Sanction unsafe needle litter (as if there weren’t enough in playgrounds already)

Strangers can assume custody of children without parental consent

Allow politicians to dip into taxpayer money to fund campaigns.

Leniency towards solicitation of minors(!) this was unbelievably passed.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is a joke or a serious question.

I'm seriously questioning the absurdity of banning something that remains available a 15-minute drive away, behind a purely informal border. I don't think, for example, that recent abortion bans had reduced the number of abortions in their respective states to zero.

You have zero comprehension of the vast scale of America. Do you also believe you can drive to another state and buy guns?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't tell if this is a joke or a serious question.

I'm seriously questioning the absurdity of banning something that remains available a 15-minute drive away, behind a purely informal border. I don't think, for example, that recent abortion bans had reduced the number of abortions in their respective states to zero.

California has a huge influence on the American economy. When it makes a law, companies and other states pay attention. The farmers, senators and representatives in my state, Iowa, are still wringing their hands and pulling out their hair over California's law which "unfairly" manipulates the hog market by requiring all pork products sold in California to come from pigs which are humanely treated according to California's definition of humane.

Re: California AB 2047 makes 3D printers off-limits to students, educators, business

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> The required technology is not possible - 3D printers read code, not intent; they cannot tell what a shape is for. "Anthropic announces Project Disarm, a new model designed for 3d printer manufacturers to quickly infer whether the intent of an stl file is a weapon. The printer first submits the job to the cloud, and only after it's approved will it print." Not that I want this future, just that I can imagine it.

They will also refuse to print 3D printer parts, especially spares for the printer to print them.
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