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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by Aurornis »

gib444 wrote: post #65
Aurornis wrote: post #31

This is an updated terms of service, but they've had ID verification for certain accounts and situations for months. Here is the Wayback Machine archive from April of their identity verification help page: https://web.archive.org/web/20260415064244/https://support.c... Here's a random Reddit thread from 2 months ago about them rolling out identity verification: https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1smr9vs/claud…

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EDIT: Parent commenter completely rewrote their comment while I was replying. I'm leaving this up as is. The text below is their original comment that I was responding to.

> What are you pushing by pointing out not only in this thread but the previous one too, quite in depth, that it's not new? I know you can claim you're just a stickler for accurate reporting but you seem really invested

Because these threads degrade into panic with the assumption that everyone is getting ID checked now.

Pointing out that the policy has been in place for 2 months puts it into perspective that this isn't a sudden policy change requiring ID for everyone. It's been this way for months.

If they roll out mandatory ID checking for everyone, that would be a different story.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by basilgohar »

onepointsixC wrote: post #22
throwaw12 wrote: post #11

Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Seems like US wants to get ahead on this and be #1 Also Sam Altman will love this idea, because he already tried it with Worldcoin

The US is behind other democracies which have required photo id for social media and other content. And even if I disagree with these laws, surely you jest that showing a proof of age is not the same thing as surveilling and scoring.

These things are always a slippery slope. They rarely, if ever, achieve their safety goals but they almost always achieve the goals of the corporate interests to garner further data for advertisers and increase surveillance of the populace by the government through proxies that buy said data and then sell to the government.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by sevenzero »

johndhi wrote: post #84
sevenzero wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This is a serious competitive advantage Given they have laughable uptime and I have yet to find a useful project mostly written by claude... I doubt it.

Huh? Limited uptime means you can't write projects with it? I assume downtime means you can't host on it ...

I wont buy expensive hardware to self host a model thats outdated within 2 months. Also, yeah, uptime is important if you dont self host.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by [deleted] »

fsckboy wrote: post #50
throwaw12 wrote: post #11

Couple years ago the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China (or was making fun of it) Seems like US wants to get ahead on this and be #1 Also Sam Altman will love this idea, because he already tried it with Worldcoin

> the West was complaining about surveillance and scoring system of citizens in China free speech, civil liberties, voting, are in China all well below the standards of the west. The criticism and complaints were completely warranted and are still true today, whereas your comment falsely implies there is some parity. could your comment be repaired to be reasonable? why bother, just read the rest of this discussion wh…

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Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by codedokode »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #46
SimianSci wrote: post #14

More signal that the open-weight models should be our destiny as an industry. These proprietary models are being used to usher in more surveillance and gatekeeping across the industry.

Someone should start a nonprofit company focused on developing Open AI. I bet we could even get some sensible billionaires to help the effort.

And we are definitely not going to put our users on a watch list DB and send their data to the government?

And how do we prevent Chinese companies from training on our open AI models and offering their models for free?

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by lenerdenator »

janalsncm wrote: post #83
lenerdenator wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the powers-that-be saw how a society that doesn't allow a lot of open criticism works in the form of China. The massive returns on investment, the near-permanent ruling class in the form of party cadres, etc. Then they decided they want that for themselves. If you do business with totalitarian societies that aren't made to liberalize, you too will become a totalitarian society.

It’s funny, 30 years ago the argument was the exact opposite: China opening up and doing business with the rest of the world would force them to liberalize.

That was the argument, yes, but let's be real: the reason that capital loved China wasn't because they were going to have to deal with trade unions and citizen initiatives to constrain their ability to unlock value. If that were the case, the then-newly-democratized Eastern Europe, or maybe India, would have gotten a lot more attention from business than China.

No, they liked China because the standard of living meant that it was easy to improve people's lives while also keeping them in line via a government that wasn't above grinding protestors into hamburger with tank tracks. The bar to clear wasn't "maintain the American standard of living", it was "provide more calories than Mao did during the Great Leap Forward", and so long as they could do that, they'd get to do whatever else they wanted with the workforce. Anyone who wanted more would get to deal with the CCP.

Re: Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity

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Post by ReptileMan »

Elon: I will burn 20 years of goodwill I have gathered with the tech community. Sam Altman: I will make sure to increase the price of all semiconductors, so you are not the most hated. Dario: You are not leaving me here alone to be the good guy, so hold my beer.
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