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Re: Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving zines

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Post by senordevnyc »

DangitBobby wrote: post #73
prepend wrote: post #61

> One fired an AR-15 at the police This is what makes this different. There’s lots of gun clubs all over the place. But if a member shoots at the police (or anyone, really) they are going to get the book thrown at them and everyone associated with them who helped them, etc. Because that changes your club from something normal to something that tried to shoot cops. There’s a group in my town called the NFA club or som…

It would be nice if cops could start following the law, in this case not firing at non-combatants would have sufficed.

Perhaps cops share your view that democracy and meritocracy are dead, and thus it's fine to victimize other people.

Re: Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving zines

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Post by rekabis »

kbelder wrote: post #59
rekabis wrote: post #3

Anyone who values democracy is automatically an anti-fascist. Democracy is _inherently_ anti-fascist.

>Anyone who values democracy is automatically an anti-fascist. Sure. None of that has anything to do with Antifa. You can't claim popular support for thuggish behavior by claiming dibs on a name.

And the fascists aren’t thuggish? I think you have your priorities backwards, bub. Rotting for fascism is rooting for evil, full stop, end of discussion.

Re: Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving zines

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Post by gos9 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #33
JuniperMesos wrote: post #25

> Let’s be clear: a few of the protesters were out of bounds. One fired an AR-15 at the police, which goes beyond legitimate protest into inciting violence (and maybe even deliberate provocation). I would never condone that kind of activity. This is the crux of the issue - from the perspective of the government, this was a group of people who lead an armed terrorist attack on a government facility in order to disrupt…

The use of private communications absolutely, fundamentally, positively, holistically cannot be allowed to be recognized as "evidence" for anything, including planned violence, or we have lost the final fight and society is doomed forever. Do not let your apathy be the tool of another man's evil.

Yes, actually it can.

Re: Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving zines

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Post by kbelder »

rekabis wrote: post #92
kbelder wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Anyone who values democracy is automatically an anti-fascist. Sure. None of that has anything to do with Antifa. You can't claim popular support for thuggish behavior by claiming dibs on a name.

And the fascists aren’t thuggish? I think you have your priorities backwards, bub. Rotting for fascism is rooting for evil, full stop, end of discussion.

Fascists are thuggish also. I didn't say anything in favor of them.

More than one thing can be bad.

Re: Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving zines

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Post by prepend »

DangitBobby wrote: post #90
prepend wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, certainly. These are separate issues. Cops doing illegal things does not mean it’s appropriate for private citizens to do illegal things. Compounding the injustice is that probably nothing will happen to the cops, but harsh sentences for the protestors. The solution to this is not shooting cops.

When they don't enact the actual solutions people will start shooting the cops. That's just the way decline of a society works.

No, not at all. As evidenced by the very few people who shoot at cops, even though cops have done illegal stuff forever. And how the few who shoot at cops usually are executed on the spot or have super extreme sentences.
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