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Turns Out, There Is a Cabal of Elite Crazies Trying to Control the World

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Re: Turns Out, There Is a Cabal of Elite Crazies Trying to Control the World

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Post by rudolftheone »

GolfPopper wrote: post #80
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The logic is that the world we see is chaotic in a way that’s difficult to reconcile with the idea that it’s all being masterminded behind the scenes. There does not seem to be any one group of people who always win every political dispute they engage in.

Yet there is a group that reliably loses in the United States: average citizens. From "Testing Theories of American Politics" ( Gilens & Page 2014)[1]: "These results suggest that reality is best captured by mixed theories in which both individual economic elites and organized interest groups (including corporations, largely owned and controlled by wealthy elites) play a substantial part in affecting public policy, b…

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #28
felooboolooomba wrote: post #21

This is not a conspiracy theory. It's actual documented evidence. The Epstein files also shed light on this, Bannon traveling around Europe to fortify alt-right alliance and seed unrest.

Was he trying to seed unrest or was he sabotaging organic right wing movements that have less dumb shit in their program? EDIT: Keep in mind that the right wing movements on which you have trained your impressions are almost always by definition the popular ones. Do people typically dig into niche groups that don't get traction for ideologies they already disagree with? Probably not, right?

The less popular the right wing group, the more dumb shit they have. And the popular ones are already so so full of dumb shit.

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Post by pseudohadamard »

Animats wrote: post #27
CPLX wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bilderberg, the World Economic Forum, and Bohemian Grove are also cabals of elite crazies trying to run the world.

Plus the Carlyle Group, Temple Emanu-El in NYC, the Rothchilds... If any of them are running the world, we're not seeing the results. The current level of competence at world-running is very low. Putin, Trump, Netanyahu, Xi, and whomever is running the UK this month are all worse than average for their job.

Plus just about any kind of invitation-only meeting of people who can Get Shit Done. Many years ago I was at one of these and one of the discussions was how you'd shut down all network comms in a country in a manner where it'd take weeks if not months to restart things, by people who were in a position to actually do it. Was this a cabal? Yes, if you report it as such, but no if you report it as a threat-modelling exercise by the defenders.

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Post by gaigalas »

> a shared preoccupation with artificial intelligence, longevity, and the near future

There are strong historical trends (going thousands of years) associating obsession with those three items (human mimicry, living forever, predicting the future) with terrible outcomes for those who pursue them. In stories, religion, myths and all sorts of blurry ancient ruins of people who exist no more.

I don't know if there's a cabal or not, but there's always a bigger fish (and it's often some unforseen social dynamic).

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Post by lazide »

blurbleblurble wrote: post #43
lazide wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t it literally one though?

I've always considered it to be some marriage of convenience moreso than some kind of formal thing. And at any rate arguing over whether there's an explicit cabal or not very badly misses the point.

I just thought it was a weird point, since by definition a cabal is a type of social club (even if all social clubs are not, of course, cabals).

It would be like if we were talking about the invasion of some country by tanks, and someone started saying ‘and tanks aren’t some kind of vehicle’. Like huh?

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Post by culi »

From a Guardian article that always stuck with me about super rich preppers:

> They started out innocuously and predictably enough. Bitcoin or ethereum? Virtual reality or augmented reality? Who will get quantum computing first, China or Google? Eventually, they edged into their real topic of concern: New Zealand or Alaska? Which region would be less affected by the coming climate crisis? It only got worse from there. Which was the greater threat: global warming or biological warfare? How long should one plan to be able to survive with no outside help? Should a shelter have its own air supply? What was the likelihood of groundwater contamination? Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, solar storm, unstoppable virus, or malicious computer hack that takes everything down.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prep...

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