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Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#93

Cloudflare: let's give the bots their own accounts so they can scrape harder. Also Cloudflare: let's send normal humans who are trying to go about their daily lives into endless Turnstile spinner loops with absolutely zero recourse, grievance, or support infrastructure.

If all bots are subject to a rate limit, then the system works as designed. Especially if site operators can block bot accounts. Requiring accounts is one of the easiest solutions for that problem. One of the large issues with scrapers is that they pretend to be normal internet visitors that never visited your site before, because any bot that stored cookies would immediately be rate limited by basic config. Turnstil…

> Normal visitors get in for free

Except for the unfortunate minority of normal visitors who always get misclassified as bots and get denied access regularly.

I wouldn’t be complaining if Cloudflare’s misclassifier bit any user with the same small probability. But it keeps biting the same users over and over again.

Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#94
post #47

Looks like Cloudflare still haven't shipped the most valuable possible feature for Cloudflare Workers though: hard billing caps. I want to set a cap of $100/month and know, for sure, that if something untoward happens my apps will all stop serving traffic rather than me getting hit with a bill for $1000s. The safest way to use Workers is on the free tier, which will shut off after 100,000 requests/day: https://develo…

tbh this is my biggest anxiety with cloudflare and this seems intentional

also its funny that i have a backup to cloudflare in case it goes down—that seems to be a regular event now as of lately with CF

Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#95
post #50

Would love to know more about how Cloudflare plans to prevent abuse of ephemeral infrastructure to host malicious content. From elsewhere in their documentation, “Cloudflare limits how quickly you can create temporary preview accounts. If the Wrangler CLI cannot create an account because too many temporary preview accounts were requested too quickly, wait before retrying or authenticate the CLI with a permanent Cloud…

Given how little they do now to stop malicious content hosted behind/by Cloudflare, the bare minimum if anything.

Cloudflare support is pretty active and very responsive to incidents. Here's a token of appreciation.

Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#96
post #64

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Not that it helps, but I think this is only a problem if you’re paying by credit card. If your company is on an enterprise plan, at least for us all of the limits are pre-negotiated and prepaid, and you aren’t billed for overages (although if you consistently overage, sales will start badgering you to negotiate a limit increase, but my experience is you can simply ignore their demands and they eventually go away) It…

My Cloudflare enterprise order form has costs for overages for Workers and the following language about everything else: > If Customer exceeds any of the Total Quantity for the Services below, Cloudflare will invoice Customer in arrears at a rate that corresponds to the rate set forth in the table after this one labeled “Excess Usage Pricing.” If no such Excess Usage Pricing table has been added by the Parties to thi…

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Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#97

If eastdakota/jgc are here. - simply expose containers to the world directly - without having to go via workers. - You have other amazing parts of the stack anyway (D1, durable objects, a great object store). These aren't considered "lockin". - workers is "lockin" - not similar enough to lambda/cloud functions and so becomes CF specific. Not having a simple container based compute piece has made me hesitate in taking…

I am here but I retired from being CTO of Cloudflare in March 2025 [1] and the current CTO is Dane Knecht (dknecht here). What advantage does decoupling Cloudflare Containers from Cloudflare Workers have? [1] https://blog.cloudflare.com/three-chapters-at-cloudflare-pro...

I'm pretty sure I heard your groan from all the way over here in Nashville. ;)

Re: Temporary Cloudflare accounts for AI agents

#98
post #87

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Interesting idea ... doesn't fit my style of content consumption, but it might fit yours. I went for a personal newsfeed, agent pulls news form ~100 feeds related to my interests. Then reads all articles for me and orders them by how interesting they might be for me. I specifically asked for vector embeddings, up/down votes (-2..+2), visited status, LLM content evaluation. Probably there are some other mechanisms I d…

Particular model or LLM that you use?

Local ones (through ollama, probably will use something more performant when I move fully to it).

When I touched it the last time I was a fan of gemma4 https://ollama.com/library/gemma4

Since then I grew really fond of Qwen3.6 (it's super capable in coding against the DOM) so I'll probably try to move to it with the next iteration. https://ollama.com/library/qwen3.6

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