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Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

alecco wrote: post #42
armcat wrote: post #24

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That movie has aged incredibly well!

As a story, yes. But Terminator failed on a basic premise: Skynet becoming self-aware. The future seems more like Blindsight [1]: hyper-intelligent, completely unconscious systems outperform, out-manipulate, and out-compete human beings purely through automated efficiency. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)

>Skynet becoming self-aware.

Did it? I thought Skynet was a defense system trained to see humans as enemies, it just worked by design, like HAL 9000. Screamers became self-aware.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

brookst wrote: post #52
rschiavone wrote: post #7

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How is it solved? LLMs cannot think new things, they can only cobble something together if it's in their training set.

What? This is a massive misunderstanding. It’s easy to get truly novel ideas from LLMs, unless your definition of “new things” is so strict that no human can do so either. The training set is about patterns, not facts or specific configurations. Yes, it’s possible to extract (some) of the training set verbatim, but that doesn’t mean it’s all you can do.

>unless your definition of “new things” is so strict that no human can do so either.

Humans rarely think of new things. We're a weak hivemind species. One or two individuals figure something out, and the rest of the troop of monkeys imitates. Brains are too fuel hungry for every brain to be innovating, "innovate and copy to the other brains" is the norm.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by bityard »

Tade0 wrote: post #17
jansan wrote: post #14

"I does not boot and it makes me sad" I actually write prompts like that when I'm not under pressure. Claude will sometimes completely ignore your feelings, and sometimes give a little comment, which I just find refreshing in the middle of otherwise often boring sessions. And it does not have an effect on the actual result.

Codex overuses the word "quickly". I'm tempted to check what happens if I tell him to do it slowly.

Crazy theory: Maybe Codex watched too many YouTube videos. I have noticed on YouTube that many younger narrators say, "I quickly did X," when "I did X" would have been more just as well and usually more truthful. Why did you have to _quickly_ cut that piece of wood when the video clearly shows cutting it at a perfectly normal speed?

Also, please try not to anthropomorphize LLMs, they hate it when you do that.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by stephenhuey »

kinematikk wrote: post #33
account42 wrote: post #27

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Resolution-wise it hasn't due to the extensive use of early CGI.

What do you mean? The cgi is great, even today. They obviously put a lot of work and effort into it

T2 and Abyss were trailblazers. I remember on the T2 director’s commentary how they were so amazed when they got the effects back months later because they’d never seen anything so good.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by mrgoldenbrown »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #91
alecco wrote: post #42

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As a story, yes. But Terminator failed on a basic premise: Skynet becoming self-aware. The future seems more like Blindsight [1]: hyper-intelligent, completely unconscious systems outperform, out-manipulate, and out-compete human beings purely through automated efficiency. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blindsight_(Watts_novel)

>Skynet becoming self-aware. Did it? I thought Skynet was a defense system trained to see humans as enemies, it just worked by design, like HAL 9000. Screamers became self-aware.

Skynet becomes self aware. From T2: "The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th."

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by stephenhuey »

lazide wrote: post #86
WolfeReader wrote: post #79

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We are in "the future" relative to both works. The current intelligence threatening our planet is an unconscious token predictor, much more like the hostile non-entity in Blindsight (which even speaks to humans via token prediction) than the mechanical persons in Terminator 2.

Near as I can tell, the LLMs aren’t the threat. Just greedy morons with too much power, same as usual.

Good point. If only the evil we must fight was as simple as Skynet. Reality is much sadder since people are hurting people.

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by lelandfe »

ubermonkey wrote: post #61
speed_spread wrote: post #59

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A major difference is that Blindsight is actually readable and enjoyable. Also, vampires in space.

Weird. I found Accelerando to be both.

I'm reading it now and am enjoying it!

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

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Post by rschiavone »

antonvs wrote: post #73
rschiavone wrote: post #7

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How is it solved? LLMs cannot think new things, they can only cobble something together if it's in their training set.

I take it that your training cutoff was early 2023.

the trope that everyone else you are talking to on the Internet is a bot is getting tiring real fast

Re: I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle

#100

Post by embedding-shape »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #84
embedding-shape wrote: post #80

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Well, maybe more accurate "No, not for me" as I literally just stated it does work for at least me, and I'm in Spain :) Seems we can conclude it may or may not work in Spain, maybe depending on the ISP? I'm on Vodafone FWIW.

is there a match on?

Not even on Cloudflare it seems, so the joke doesn't even work FWIW :/
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