San Francisco Weighs PG&E Takeover Amid Soaring Utility Costs

Post by m463 » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 1:23 AM UTC

ninkendo wrote: post #86

jjav wrote: post #83

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> But PG&E has charged significantly more for power the last few years. Most people easily hit 50c/kwh on their bills. Way more than that! In prime time it's now in the ~80c/kWh these days. I've been posting this for years and continues to be true: given the price increase trend of PG&E, within 10 years the electricity bill will be larger than the mortgage. But, those PG&E VPs need their bonuses!

Yikes… that means a Tesla Model S with a 95kWH battery would cost $76 to charge. Most people around the country pay way less than that to fill a combustion SUV at the pump.

I don't know - gas is close to $7/gal in california (if it isn't that in some places)

Post by jjav » Thu, Jun 18, 2026, 6:53 AM UTC

plorkyeran wrote: post #89

jjav wrote: post #84

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> Let's say your overall rate is $0.50/kWh It's way higher than that with PG&E. My PG&E bill tends to be around $500/mo and I run basically nothing out of the basics. Never turn on the A/C. Tiny house, normal usage of fridge, lights and the usual househould gadgets like washer/dryer. Near the coast so climate is cool, if we lived in the hot areas and had to run A/C I imagine it would be double at least. The profound…

The top-end rate with PG&E is not way higher than $0.50/kWh. If you're paying $500/month with no AC and no homelab or whatever then you have something else sucking up vast amounts of power and you should spend some time with a killawatt measuring your appliances.

> The top-end rate with PG&E is not way higher than $0.50/kWh.

This is from a recent PG&E bill from my house:

Peak pricing: 0.48575 delivery + 0.14920 generation = $0.635 kWh

So yes that's pretty much higher than $0.50 kWh

It seems to have gone down a bit this year though. These are the numbers from 2024:

Peak pricing: 0.53 + 0.183 = $0.71 kWh

Note that peak is 4pm to midnight, so basically all the electricity-using hours one usually would be at home if working regular hours at the office (like we do). Off-peak is a bit cheaper but we're either sleeping or out of the house so not very helpful.

Re: San Francisco Weighs PG&E Takeover Amid Soaring Utility Costs

Re: San Francisco Weighs PG&E Takeover Amid Soaring Utility Costs