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Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#91

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That is why I have no sympathy to spare for anyone who chose to work for Zuckerberg's social toilet.

Yes, they certainly should have taken one of the many other jobs that are widely available right now.

After Meta you can get a job at any normal org pretty easily. After Meta’s “AI department “ doubly so.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#92
post #62

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If I had taken a Reddit/HN approved job instead of working at FAANGs for 20 years, I’d be looking at another 20 years of soul crushing work. Instead, I’m retired. Sure you have to roll your eyes at the corporate nonsense sometimes but I’m happy I made that trade-off.

Nothing wrong with that in principle, I just can't imagine it. I've never worked at FAANGs, but I have at some pretty closely adjacent outfits (swarming with ex-FAANGs) and 3-4yr is just about the most I can stand before I have to quit (or get myself fired) for a while and reset. Whenever push comes to shove between the medieval politicking and just.. engineering fact, I just can't bring myself to throw what I know t…

I don't know. I've always worked at the big companies and they all had slightly different variants of the same nonsense. New companies may begin with mission-driven people but once it grows beyond a certain point, enough money/power-driven people join that the company irrevocably changes. Seems inescapable. Given that, and the fact that being mission-driven doesn't pay for my kid's piano lessons as well as FAANG did, I held my nose and compartmentalized work into the working hours as best as I could. There's less corporate backbiting in the less glamorous parts of a FAANG (test/QA, internal tools, etc.) but the pay is just as good, so that's where I always gravitated.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#93
Alternative to archive.is

No CAPTCHA, no Javascript, no geo-blocking, no DDoS shenanigans

  cr=$(echo x|tr x '\r')
  nl=$(echo x|tr x '\n')
  curl https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-employee-meeting-interrupt-ai/ \
  |sed "1s/^/HTTP 1.0 200 OK$cr$nlContent-Security-Policy: default-src: 'none';$cr$nl$cr$nl/" > 1.htm
  firefox ./1.htm
  #links https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-employee-meeting-interrupt-ai/ 
Text-only

  curl https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-employee-meeting-interrupt-ai/ \
  |egrep -o '(articleBody.*isBasedOn)|(>Someone.*shit.)' \
  |sort \
  |sed "1{s/>//;
         s///;
         s//Meta/;
         s//Meta AI/;
         s/"/\"/;
         s/'/'/;};
        2{s/articleBody\":\"//;
         s/\\\n/@@/g;
         s/\"\".*//;
         s/\",\".*//;
         s/\\\//;
         s/@\{3,5\}/@/g;}" \
  |tr @ '\n' \
  |fmt > 1.txt
  less 1.txt
  #links -dump https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-employee-meeting-interrupt-ai/|less

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#94
post #62

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Same reason any of us work: money.

If I had taken a Reddit/HN approved job instead of working at FAANGs for 20 years, I’d be looking at another 20 years of soul crushing work. Instead, I’m retired. Sure you have to roll your eyes at the corporate nonsense sometimes but I’m happy I made that trade-off.

Yea this idea that I should provide less for my family in order to pass some HN morality smell test is a luxury belief that those of us in the real world sneer at.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#95
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had taken a Reddit/HN approved job instead of working at FAANGs for 20 years, I’d be looking at another 20 years of soul crushing work. Instead, I’m retired. Sure you have to roll your eyes at the corporate nonsense sometimes but I’m happy I made that trade-off.

Nothing wrong with that in principle, I just can't imagine it. I've never worked at FAANGs, but I have at some pretty closely adjacent outfits (swarming with ex-FAANGs) and 3-4yr is just about the most I can stand before I have to quit (or get myself fired) for a while and reset. Whenever push comes to shove between the medieval politicking and just.. engineering fact, I just can't bring myself to throw what I know t…

3-4 years is also about my tolerance for the run-of-the-mill bullshit and bureaucracy and politics at any company. I need a fresh slate every few years as well.

Interestingly, my worst career experience was at a company with ~30 people. So you don't necessarily need size to produce bad results.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#96
post #89

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Worst still, they destroyed social media, perhaps even contributed to destroying mobile (destroyed in the sense that, well, they became dumpster fires).

I'm not sure a growth-obsessed Facebook could have done anything other than destroy social media, in the same way that a growth-obsessed Google couldn't have done anything other than destroy the web. The only plausible alternate reality I can see would have been one where US anti-trust was vigorously enforced and kept Instagram and WhatsApp from being bought. But that would have required expansions of US anti-trust l…

> But that would have required expansions of US anti-trust law to allow for more proactive deployment.

A nice hint for legislators to come.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#97
Engineers are a fun group. Usually, when a job isn’t interesting, we carve it into something interesting. Be it that we “need” some kind of automation framework so that the work is “easier”, shifting the actual boring work to whatever tool they “need” and is more interesting to build.

In this specific case, maybe a formal language to define the tests and their optimal solutions so that they can be “rendered” to multiple programming languages and the solutions can be measured against the definition automatically.

As for Zuckerberg’s employees not deserving sympathy, I think we all found ourselves in abusive relationships with companies thanks to stock options and other sorts of handcuffs that aren’t easy to get rid of. I have twice quit jobs for moral divergence with company goals and I can tell you it’s not as easy as some people paint it. The first time was the hardest.

Re: Meta’s chaotic AI strategy

#98
post #87

It feels like, when the history of Facebook is written, it will be clear that the company destroyed itself.

The problem is, what were their other options? They made a ridiculous amount of money on a social network. Where do you go from there? VR and AI were and are attempts to remain relevant, but not every company succeeds in doing that, and Facebook is particularly unsuited to it - you don’t just pivot from web dev to innovating in new fields. One of the common private equity playbooks recognizes this - they’ll often jet…

Breaking/destroying the thing that put you on the map would seem to be a bad idea. But they so fucked up the algorithm on Facebook, turned the whole site into a political cesspool, that everyone I know left the site in droves.

I think I left 10 or 12 years ago?

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