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US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by darepublic »

sowbug wrote: post #30

Related: episode 653 of 99% Invisible mentions Peace Arch Park, which is along the US-Canada border in Blaine, Washington, and Surrey, British Columbia. Anyone from either country can enter the park and mingle with people from the other country. There's supposedly strong incentive, because of a treaty from the War of 1812, for both countries to keep their side of the park open: If Canada broke the treaty, in theory,…

I have a hard time believing that Canada would ever get parts of the US if America broke this. Even if the signed document included unambiguous promises written in the verified DNA of a famous American president or other extravagances

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by asteroidburger »

bluGill wrote: post #29
Beannation wrote: post #27

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I really hope we get back to times where we were really best friends. It was good for both countries and was a model for international relationships/partnerships.

Write your congressman. If congress decides the people care things will change, but when they hear nothing they don't care.

The nice thing about having a rep that supports my ideals is I don't really see the need to. It won't change anything, and I don't need to convince them.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

Arubis wrote: post #85
GJim wrote: post #53

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That fatalistic attitude is why your democracy is in peril. Get off your arse and take lessons on protesting from the French.

The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests. I understand the irony in stating this (well then, USian, get off your ass and demand a social safety net), but the chicken-and-egg problem is real. This is setting aside cultural mores and biases; for an example thereof, see sibling comment.

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Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by mothballed »

nemomarx wrote: post #82
otikik wrote: post #61

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They will care more if you pay them instead, though.

Given how cheap some politicians are, a pro Canadian lobby could do wonders. If AIPAC can get so much influence for so little why not.

AIPAC bought the KY-04 seat by pumping so much money into shows demented boomers watch that they completely upset the usual primary voters in the state by getting truckload of demented people to show up from a 30 second sound blurb played over and over that Massie was selling out Kentucky to the democrats. This despite the fact the votes from last term's primary voters basically did not change at all.

It's actually mind blowing how effective AIPAC is. They managed to upset one of the most popular Republicans in the US house by a genius campaign at non-voting demented boomers by tricking them to believe probably the most conservative guy in the entire congress is secretly a Democrat.

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by I-M-S »

embedding-shape wrote: post #89
Arubis wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests. I understand the irony in stating this (well then, USian, get off your ass and demand a social safety net), but the chicken-and-egg problem is real. This is setting aside cultural mores and biases; for an example thereof, see sibling comment.

> The French have more of a social safety net, which enables extended protests How do you think they got those in the first place though?

Those rights were won at the time when stomachs were more often empty than full and before video games got really good.

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Post by yieldcrv »

pibaker wrote: post #56
yieldcrv wrote: post #34

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Germans and your other neighbors call you guys weird, took me a while before I stopped by but for me - an American - Switzerland is perfect guns, jets, immigration sovereignty and a disinterest in peer pressure about it, similar combination of cultural influences, publicly traded central bank that just creates money and buys US tech stocks and produces dividends, ATMs that dispense $200, $500 and $1000 denominations…

>lauds a foreign country for being anti immigration >wants to immigrate there >not by making an economical case that having you in the country will make them richer >but by trying to marry a local Real talk. You may want to delete this post before you actually do the citizenship by marriage thing, buddy. Marrying for the express intent of obtaining citizenship is generally considered citizenship fraud.

one out of many possible interpretations, pound sand

Re: US-Canada border library gets new Quebec-only entrance

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Post by lmm »

greggoB wrote: post #58
stuxnet79 wrote: post #49

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Believe me an open border would do nothing but increase xenophobia. Canada is dealing with its own immigration crisis with a ton of newcomers DDoSing the overextended healthcare system and real estate market.

Europe has open borders and this hasn't facilitated any increase in xenophobia that I'm aware of, despite many countries having many immigrants. South Africa by contrast does not have open borders, and is currently going through another bout of violent xenophobia. I don't think these two things are specifically related.

> hasn't facilitated any increase in xenophobia that I'm aware of

Then you haven't been paying attention.

> South Africa by contrast does not have open borders, and is currently going through another bout of violent xenophobia.

Arguably a legacy of the time when it did.

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Post by bluGill »

asteroidburger wrote: post #92
bluGill wrote: post #29

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Write your congressman. If congress decides the people care things will change, but when they hear nothing they don't care.

The nice thing about having a rep that supports my ideals is I don't really see the need to. It won't change anything, and I don't need to convince them.

It is important because they need to decide priority. And if they are not strong supporters they may even change their opinion to get votes next fall if they see the political winds. (I don't know your representative, some are more swayed by the winds that others)

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Post by stuxnet79 »

totony wrote: post #77
stuxnet79 wrote: post #49

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Believe me an open border would do nothing but increase xenophobia. Canada is dealing with its own immigration crisis with a ton of newcomers DDoSing the overextended healthcare system and real estate market.

Canada DoS'd its own healthcare. I'm mostly familiar with Quebec but the overextended healthcare system is mainly our own doing, so is housing shortage.

Well the structural issues have been present for some time but the influx of newcomers during COVID did not help the situation. Not saying it is right, but these newcomers have become a scapegoat and it's stoked the flames of xenophobia which was previously never an issue in this country.

Also QC for all it's local issues has largely been insulated from "over-immigration" due to the language requirements. If your only experience is there you may not be aware of the scale of the problem.

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