"without no way" of stopping it?
Incredibly insightful. Not everyone speaks English as a first language. On top of that, the title is not ambiguous.
You're right, it's not ambiguous. It's literally incorrect.
Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say that as if somehow the trend for cross platform desktop apps to be ridiculously bloated bundles of browser overlays is new? What major cross platform app isn't based on Electron or Tauri? Slack, Discord, VS Code, Teams, Notion...
You'd think Artificial Intelligence could be used to find a better path forward, alas.
Let me know when we have actual AI and we can get right on it.
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#93This all feels like a race where the model companies try to solve doing work locally in a way that doesn't suck, before the major operating systems companies figure out AI integration into their OS that doesn't suck. It also makes me wonder why Google which has both Gemini and Android can't figure this out, and if there are lessons to draw from that.
They are releasing AluminumOS with their Googlebooks, which is a AI forward OS. If its good or not we have yet to see.
"What do you mean, an Aluminum Falcon?!"
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#94The VM itself is for Claude Cowork which does all work within the VM sandbox. That doesn't help answer why they spin it up immediately and don't have a way to disable it though. Just the "why it exists" question.
Probably because they vibecoded it
Correct and they have no idea what they are doing.
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are releasing AluminumOS with their Googlebooks, which is a AI forward OS. If its good or not we have yet to see.
It's looking like a slightly updated reskin of chromeOS with gemini features built in. Definitely not a developer machine based on how they presented it in google IO. So if you write software, it's not looking like it'll be relevant whatsoever. I hope to be proven wrong.
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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#96I won't understand why Cowork isn't simply opt-in. It also installs a ~10GB vm bundle which you cannot remove https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1rlc71n/claude_de...
Rule 1 with making number go up is you eliminate friction at all costs. The user's hard drive is free to you, so there's no reason to gate a feature you want them to use based on that. 98% of them will have no idea you're foisting garbage on them.
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#97Isn’t it good that it spins up without no way of stopping it? Why would it be a problem that we do have a way of stopping it?
> Claude Desktop spins up a VM without no way of stopping it
I frequently make this error when I talk. My brain thinks of different ways to phrase what I want to say, but when I speak it starts with one and finishes with another. The result is almost always wrong in the way the title is, ie some variant of a double negation.
Sometimes it happens when I type, though I try to read it multiple times so often catch it.
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#98Why are the UIs of the AI companies all broken in multiple ways?
They're some of the only new UIs to be made in the last decade. Almost everyone else stays in the browser (or something close like electron- claude code is actually mostly written in React, they couldn't get far from web dev). The problem is they need to interact with the local filesystem, and not many people have built apps for such a wide range of devices in a long time, and of that small talent pool I bet most are…
Luckily for them, every OS has (at least one) native way of building applications, and with the power of AI they could easily make 3 different desktop UIs, while reusing the same core logic.
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#99This all feels like a race where the model companies try to solve doing work locally in a way that doesn't suck, before the major operating systems companies figure out AI integration into their OS that doesn't suck. It also makes me wonder why Google which has both Gemini and Android can't figure this out, and if there are lessons to draw from that.
Google is historically terrible as a product company (and has succeeded in spite of that) As their technical innovations become less of a moat (we're already there) they won't be able to win on engineering alone (they are no longer winning on engineering alone)
Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use
#100I have two friends that are using coding agents on Windows, which was surprising to learn. Edit: yes, with WSL2 I believe in both cases. I would have assumed almost everyone would get a Mac/Linux computer to use coding agents because Unix is their "native" platform. It's Bash tool calls all the way down. Does anyone know a source for reliable data on what coding agent apps devs are using? How many are using Code Clau…
Are you sure they're not using WSL2 (which is Linux, not Windows)?
Yes, sure, they're using Linux within a virtual machine (WSL2).