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Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

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Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#91

Post by cyanydeez »

andrewzeno wrote: post #24

My email is filled with junk from cybersecurity "experts" telling me that my open source project is "very compromised" and that they will gladly reveal to me what the issue is, if I commit to paying them a bug bounty. I get at least a few every week. I hate them, but I feel like we are well past the point where in any place where there is money to be made, the majority of cold outreach will be from semi-personalized…

this is what a pi based LLM is great for; give it it's own email address, then say something like "I'm intrigued, please talk to my security expert, CC'd" and cc the pi.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#92

Post by ElevenLathe »

LollipopYakuza wrote: post #77
ElevenLathe wrote: post #49

Ordinary, non-elite jobseekers (at least in the US) NEED a job or they will be homeless. If you want somebody to stop asking for a job, give them a job.

Being in (important) need for a job doesn't make it any more legit to blindly spam others - especially those in the same boat.

Maybe not, but it does mean that the request for empathy in this post is completely backwards. It's a minor annoyance for the poster, and life or death for the sender. I get spam to tell me about promotions for Australian McDonalds locations I've never been to (I live in the US, have never been to Australia, and never intend to go). Surely he can muster enough empathy to click delete on this along with the 40k other messages he is getting from automated, venture-backed spam outfits.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#93

Post by dheera »

noitpmeder wrote: post #52
dheera wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of all the recruiters who reach out to me saying they're working on filling some engineer position but never say the company name, and when asked, they want to have a call. Stop wasting my time, STATE THE COMPANY UPFRONT AND AT THE TOP, preferably in the subject line

They can't, otherwise a significant fraction of the people they reach out to would just skip the head hunter and contact the company directly. Same reason these same head hunters will usually strip any direct-contact details out of your resume before sending on to companies -- they don't want those companies running around them and contacting the candidate directly. IMO, these people are all grifters and uses-car-sal…

I can't get interested in a job without knowing who the people behind it are, and what the actual mission of the company is.

Recruiters say things like "autonomous robotics systems"

For what? Weapons? Hell no. Doing dangerous industrial jobs humans shouldn't be doing? Hell yes.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#94

Post by satvikpendem »

ibejoeb wrote: post #80
codeforafrica wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's because you all share your email addresses directly in your posts. I put my email address in my profile, and anyone genuinely interested is just one click away from getting my address from there or from my website which i also link to. Aside from a handful of exceptions I get no spam whatsoever, despite posting for years and not obscuring my address at all. And what I do get is most likely hand-written.

We have the technology to scrape your profile page too.

And there have been reports of people doing just that, scraping HN profiles to promote their new startup.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#95

Post by 21asdffdsa12 »

cyanydeez wrote: post #91
andrewzeno wrote: post #24

My email is filled with junk from cybersecurity "experts" telling me that my open source project is "very compromised" and that they will gladly reveal to me what the issue is, if I commit to paying them a bug bounty. I get at least a few every week. I hate them, but I feel like we are well past the point where in any place where there is money to be made, the majority of cold outreach will be from semi-personalized…

this is what a pi based LLM is great for; give it it's own email address, then say something like "I'm intrigued, please talk to my security expert, CC'd" and cc the pi.

bots talking to bots- thats all there is

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#97

Post by notsure357 »

The internet will always be a potentially unfriendly place and you need to accept that instead of expecting it to magically change because spammers hurt your feelings. You mention that you are an entrepreneur as well, which makes me believe that you need to learn how to overcome your fear of rejection. Check out the book "Rejection Proof" by Jia Jiang.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#98

Post by maratc »

bflesch wrote: post #88
maratc wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They also have no spaces around the em dash. Must be followers of Chicago Manual of Style (and not AP Stylebook.)

Or we follow Occam's razor and accept that a random guy whose comment looks like AI in a tech forum discussing AI is not an advanced scribe following a certain school of writing, but rather some vibe coder who AI-optimizes their comments.

Both my computer and my phone replace two dash symbols with an em dash, and have been doing so since well before the invention of AI.

The GP’s post history suggests they have some touch with typography.

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#99

Post by bluebands »

iqihs wrote: post #79
ed153 wrote: post #16

As a general rule, if someone ever posts any kind of career troubles on any platform, the only correct responses should contain sympathy or a relevant career opportunity. Anything else is so callous. Hang in there Ilia, you're not the only one hurting, and don't apologize for venting. Most of us in the HN community are far more supportive.

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just be a nice person bro

Re: Please don't spam people looking for employment. It's just cruel

#100

Post by Rendello »

noitpmeder wrote: post #66
zamadatix wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No space em dash = a real person who has been bulldozed by LLMs using it with spaces.

I've had to configure a few editors to stop turning my natural ' -- ' into endashes...

I hate any editor changing anything without permission (especially ones that insert the closing paren/bracket).

I used to love Linux's compose keys, though, where I could just press `--.` to get an en dash and `---` to get an em. Most of the compose combinations were guessable, like `a'` for á, `co` for ©.

MacOS has a great keyboard locale switcher, but the lack of real compose keys limits things. Most characters you can press and hold and get some accented versions, but it's very slow if you're typing in French or something in the EN layout. It also has a built-in character picker, which is really nice but even more slow.

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