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U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by whattheheckheck »

avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

Groundnews, ballotpedia, govtrack.us, directly following politicians social media... you get a very clear picture of what's going on.

If people are lost to the Algorithm then we get what we deserve. Should have loved your family more

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by [deleted] »

avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

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Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

#93

Post by himata4113 »

reddozen wrote: post #85
himata4113 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't vote because I am uneducated enough in local politics to do so I would only be corrupting the vote and dilluting votes that are that of people who did their research. This is an opinionated take, but voting just to vote is pointless and does more harm than good. I guess I should have positioned that at the end instead of making that the opening statement.

> I don't vote because I am uneducated enough in local politics to do so I would only be corrupting the vote and dilluting votes that are that of people who did their research. I'm going to tell you a secret it doesn't tell you on the ballot: You don't have to fill in all the bubbles like you're being graded in middle school. You can chose to only vote for things you are opinionated on. Just kidding, every ballot alr…

"Democracy sounds nice, but it assumes people want to participate in it: actively validate facts, find truthful information not just vote whoever promises more of what you like."

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by himata4113 »

reddozen wrote: post #84
card_zero wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, people's ideas matter regardless of what they do.

Maybe, in general . But in the realm of American democracy, the literal discussion at hand, their actions mean their voice matters absolutely none.

I can influence politics without ever voting myself so this statement is just wrong. In fact, politicians usually don't vote and if they do they make it into a spectacle.

Moreover, it should be acceptable to be fustrated with the political system and bring broader change, something I don't have the energy to do myself since I generally don't believe I'll stay where I am in the forseeable future as I "vote" by simply leaving my country.

Of course when you're talking about superpowers such as United States the story is different as your vote can impact the global state of the world, but that is a whole different conversation and I am luckily not apart of it.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by MontgomeryPy »

avaer wrote: post #3

It's interesting to have a conversation with people over politics these days, sometimes it's like people don't live in the same reality anymore. It's probably not far from the truth. To a first approximation, nothing is verified, people see a number on social media as a proxy for accuracy. Even if it's completely wrong, it doesn't matter because you're among friends. Memes let insane ideas spread like a virus, the on…

Fortunately the gas pump is a primary news source for a lot of people and it doesn't lie!

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by gymbeaux »

himata4113 wrote: post #44
reddozen wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have never voted and never will. Thank you for putting the reason at the top to disregard the rest of your post-hoc justification. Your prescriptions literally don't matter because you will never engage with the political system.

I don't vote because I am uneducated enough in local politics to do so I would only be corrupting the vote and dilluting votes that are that of people who did their research. This is an opinionated take, but voting just to vote is pointless and does more harm than good. I guess I should have positioned that at the end instead of making that the opening statement.

I think most people just vote for whoever’s mailer they like more. Where I live, the Republican candidate just sends out a mailer with him standing next to a firefighter and a cop and that’s really it. Maybe some garb about reducing crime and taxes at the same time. That’s enough for many (most?) to decide whether that’s the candidate they want to vote for.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

#98

Post by ImJamal »

platevoltage wrote: post #56
himata4113 wrote: post #13

The problem with voting is that people are simply not engaged in politics anymore. I have never voted and never will. To be impactful you have to be a politician and that's a full-time job which lives off donations. We need more politicans, but we don't have a reward structure to support them so we have too few politicians which means the few are funded by powerful people making even fewer make the decisions. Just to…

> The problem with voting is that people are simply not engaged in politics anymore. I have never voted and never will. Seems like you identified the problem. I'm definitely the type that thinks there is nothing salvageable from the current U.S. system that was dreamt up by a bunch of racists who thought owning other human beings was acceptable, but I also believe that voting is a form of harm reduction. The people w…

Large chunks of the founders were opposed to slavery. John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Gouverneur Morris, Sam Adams and more.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by tstrimple »

Dig1t wrote: post #90
tstrimple wrote: post #86

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You’ve got to lay off of right wing media. It’s warped your brain. None of that is true.

NBC News: >Supreme Court allows Biden administration to remove border razor wire > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3uo7MOZvU Local Dallas News: >Biden Used Forklifts To Remove Razor Wire, Open The Border & Allow Millions To Enter > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqbVgX5TZA CBS Miami: >Arizona To Remove Makeshift Border Wall After Lawsuit From Biden Administration > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7nEW1Pqvd8 I ca…

Your source is a bunch of youtube videos? Including Doctor Phil? What a joke that proves my point.

Re: U.S. midterms have a cyber problem, but it's not at the ballot box

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Post by mrguyorama »

ImJamal wrote: post #98
platevoltage wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem with voting is that people are simply not engaged in politics anymore. I have never voted and never will. Seems like you identified the problem. I'm definitely the type that thinks there is nothing salvageable from the current U.S. system that was dreamt up by a bunch of racists who thought owning other human beings was acceptable, but I also believe that voting is a form of harm reduction. The people w…

Large chunks of the founders were opposed to slavery. John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Gouverneur Morris, Sam Adams and more.

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