I figure once you get AI that can do all the stuff humans can you'll effectively get a new species whether you want it or not. Maybe the robots/AIs can go do their thing on Mars or in a Dyson sphere and Earth can be something like a nature reserve for us humans?
The people who actually want AI to replace humanity
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Re: The people who actually want AI to replace humanity
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are economic systems which aren't based on the concept of "money".
If you mean bartering, then what people which has been pushed out by AI into uselessness are going to barter?
Not really. "Money" is actually just a middleman that facilitates bartering in new configurations, such as the exchange of goods/services with very different valuations. So there concept is retained.
I mean systems in which there're no expectations of giving something in return for getting something of economic value. That which happens naturally within family.
Re: The people who actually want AI to replace humanity
#94> Of course, he said, not all humans will make it through the transformation; only a select group of people will transition to the next evolutionary stage.
Yeah; as expected, this is eugenics.
Any time you see some person or group saying that "only a select group of humans will/should survive", scratch the surface and you'll find that it's just a thin veneer over classic Josef Mengele-style eugenics.
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#95> Since they believe AIs could become our moral superiors, they argue it’s actually wrong to try to keep the machines down, or even to align them with human values, as most AI companies aim to do. It's possible that human morality is not sufficient to solve the problems with the world. It wasn't designed to operate at that scale. It's also quite likely that a "superior" morality — the one that's actually built for a…
I agree with all these observations. This is the best argument for successionism IMO. If you can be confident that you are creating a BDFL that is genuinely better than human leaders (a quite low bar) then it seems a good trade, unless you are quite optimistic about humanity’s prospects for improvement. The problem of course is how to be confident you are creating a good BDFL and not handing control of humanity’s fut…
Yeah, if you can modify yourself then you can just delete your desires. It's the most efficient solution. (See also: Buddhism.)
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#96> Since they believe AIs could become our moral superiors, they argue it’s actually wrong to try to keep the machines down, or even to align them with human values, as most AI companies aim to do. It's possible that human morality is not sufficient to solve the problems with the world. It wasn't designed to operate at that scale. It's also quite likely that a "superior" morality — the one that's actually built for a…
> It's also quite likely that a "superior" morality — the one that's actually built for a global scale — would be incomprehensible (likely requiring superintelligence to even access), and alien or disturbing from our vantage point. Congratulations, you just reinvented the ineffability of God.
Yeah, it works with God, although the template is just parenting.
Imagine a kid who wants to eat infinite candy, and a parent who doesn't want his teeth to rot. From the kids point of view, candy is obviously good, and restriction is obviously evil!
It might take the kid many years to understand the parent's perspective. (In some cases such a day may never arrive.)
Re: The people who actually want AI to replace humanity
#97Hello everyone just a reminder that 99% of the world isn’t interested in AI replacing us. If you work at a big tech company, there are other ways to make money. I’m always disappointed by how few people start their own thing. Small business is amazing.
> I’m always disappointed by how few people start their own thing. Small business is amazing There's a lot of roles and specializations in tech that don't work well without much larger organizations.
And there’s lots in smaller orgs that don’t work in larger. So let’s shift to smaller :)
Re: The people who actually want AI to replace humanity
#98Hello everyone just a reminder that 99% of the world isn’t interested in AI replacing us. If you work at a big tech company, there are other ways to make money. I’m always disappointed by how few people start their own thing. Small business is amazing.
99% of the world would love lawyers, tax men, self-entitles software developers, and the likes to go the way of horse carriages.
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So you trust the guy who gives AI speeches in front of a background that is a mixture of grey neoclassicism and brutalism which Leni Riefenstahl would have been proud of? https://xcancel.com/LaceyPresley/status/2060436135671632067#... Here is a hint: Humans are better in dirt conditions. The robots will not take the place of Saudi immigrant workers but rather of the Saudi secret police. You will be working in the dir…
Man, please don't tar brutalism with the same brush as a Nazi. They've got nothing to do with each other. And besides, the design in that photo isn't brutalist: too much non-structural, non-functional decoration.