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EV Stupidity Checklist

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> Turn signal stalk While we're at it one thing to add: Keep your turn signal at an on-off pattern. I don't wan't to have to parse your cute turn signal animation. It's a warning light and should be somewhat irritating/eye-catching.

Yeah those "animated" turn signal fades make me irrationally angry. Why??? What's wrong with the standard signal?

While we're at it, keep them orange. Nobody wants to spend a second of uncertainty trying to figure out if you're signalling or braking.

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post #86
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This annoys me whenever I'm on the road. The issue is unnecessary latency: the signal wastes time going from off to on by being substantially less bright then it should be. If you want to add cutesy features then have the turn signal automatically synchronize blinking with the car in front/behind it. People would love it.

Yeah but with a flashing light, if you look during an "off" phase, you don't see anything for a little while. Animated would/could show one segment on always I'd like to orange turn signals come back! They could even have an arrow inside them and toggle between inside and outside. Maybe thats too goofy, but at least something would always be illuminated. Here's a goofy SVG to show the concept https://codepen.io/tln0/…

Turn signals in the EU are required to be orange. It's the US which doesn't have any laws regarding their color.

https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/u-s-amber-turn-sign...

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post #85
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Isn't Tesla the only one that made it mandatory? Hyundai, Ford, etc have it as an option.

Tesla is an outlier in that the car is designed only with a glass roof. It's not a hole in the existing roof panel like other cars. The lower trim Tesla Y bizarrely has a glass roof that's covered on the inside with a headliner.

Everyone with Teslas around where I am recently discovered that this is super inconvenient when a nasty hail storm happens. I mean, all of our cars got totaled anyway, but they had the added insult of no longer having a roof and needing to tarp more of the car until insurance could do their thing.

With the cost of the bespoke glass, damage to it basically means the car is guaranteed to be totaled even in a less extreme scenario.

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post #85
post #33

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Isn't Tesla the only one that made it mandatory? Hyundai, Ford, etc have it as an option.

Tesla is an outlier in that the car is designed only with a glass roof. It's not a hole in the existing roof panel like other cars. The lower trim Tesla Y bizarrely has a glass roof that's covered on the inside with a headliner.

> Tesla is an outlier in that the car is designed only with a glass roof. It's not a hole in the existing roof panel like other cars.

Lots of cars have followed Tesla's lead: Ioniq 5, Mach E, etc.

I'm claiming that Tesla is an outlier in that they're not giving a choice. With the Ioniq 5 and Mach E, you can choose whether you want the glass roof or not.

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Cameras are infinitely more useful for backing up and parking. Not being able to use them is actually a skill issue.

People that only use their rear view cameras scare me. Move your head, be aware of your environment and the people (kids) around you. And use your cameras (again, kids). Sometimes I sit in a coffee shop and very often see people just using their side mirrors (no rear cam, not looking back) ... scary.

Modern cameras give a way better view of what's behind and to the side of the car than you can ever achieve through mirrors. There's really no comparison. Yes, if you're comparing to older, inferior camera systems mirrors might be better, but not the modern ones.

I say this as someone who learned to drive and drove for a long time with no cameras. People saying this are just usually just used to mirrors and never bothered to take the time to learn to switch to the cameras for backwards maneuvering, or their cars just are not equiped with the latest tech.

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Cameras are infinitely more useful for backing up and parking. Not being able to use them is actually a skill issue.

Cameras are not a suitable replacement for rear-vision mirrors for the same reason that screens are not a suitable replacement. It’s even addressed in TFA: focal length. >>> But more importantly, current screen technology requires the driver to focus on the surface of the screen itself, which is mere feet away from their eyes. This is a large change in focal distance from looking at the road ahead. If you’re over the…

I never said mirrors should be replaced.

Also, this conversation is about backing up and parking (read what I said). When backing up you are mostly looking backwards only, so the focal length adjustment point is moot. Even if you have to switch to looking forwards, this is at low speeds / standing still, so it doesn't make a difference.

I'll restate my point with emphasis because you seem to not have read it: Cameras are infinitely more useful for backing up and parking.

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I love the note regarding the rearview mirror being an actual, you know, mirror. A friend was teasing me the other day for using my mirrors while I backed up, ignoring the various screens and camera feeds dotting the dash. I reminded him that photons impinging my eyes reflected off the material world at the diffraction limit of the visible spectrum remain much higher fidelity than some shitty parts-bin screens. Plus…

friend was teasing me the other day for using my mirrors while I backed up Good way to fail a drivers' test in a lot of places.

Thankfully you only have to do those once, not every time you drive.

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#98

Oh my god!!! Physical on/off siwtches for lights. The number of times I would curse the EV I drove previously, when I saw a person in front with no lights on, or to signal a semi that it was safe for them to switch lanes....flashing the hi-beam sends exactly the wrong message. Another annoyance: these days, even low end cars have an `AUTO` setting for lights, that ensures that headlamps and rear tail lights come on w…

Every time I'd take my car to the shop they'd turn the lights off, and I find myself driving around in the dark with no lights on. Why does anyone want that? And we used to mandate "daytime running lights" in Canada, I didn't get the memo when we stop enforcing that.

"Always turn the lights off" makes some sense to a shop. Older cars don't have automatic headlights. The mechanics might not want to figure out which is which. If they guess wrong, the car may drain its battery and cause even more problems.

Plus, working around very bright lights, especially if the car has been elevated, can be really annoying.

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There are some - albeit few - cars that tick most of this checklist. MZS5 EV[1] checks most except the physical buttons, which is a half tick. There’s some physical buttons for some important things, but could do better. The previous model of had more buttons but essentially the same checklist-wise. 1. https://mgmotor.com.au/pages/mg-s5-ev

2025 Hyundai Kona SEL EV ticks most, maybe even all, of them. I'll mark with "(Maybe)" the ones that there might be some question about.

1. (Maybe) The door handles protrude like God intended, and it is obvious what you are supposed to do since there is an impossible to miss button.

However, the button only unlocks the door if you have the key fob, and sometimes it can take a couple pressed for it to work, so that might disqualify it.

If you want to unlock it without that key fob (and without using the app) there is a physical key, but the keyhole is behind a cover that is not obvious.

2. Yes to physical door opening mechanism.

3. Yes to door handle affordances.

4. Yes to physical charge port mechanism. Simple push to open latch mechanism, which is the only way to open it.

5-10. Yes to turn signal stalk, physical controls on steering wheel, physical temperature and fan controls, physical are flow and direction controls, and physical glove box opening mechanism.

11-13. Yes to rearview mirror, rear window, and side-view mirrors.

It is basically the same as a non-EV Kona at the same trim level except for things that have to be different.

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