I couldn't imagine working remote straight out of college. I'm very glad I work remote now though.
Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.
What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
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Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#92I couldn't imagine working remote straight out of college. I'm very glad I work remote now though.
At my current job we see "junior" devs with 3 years of GitHub contributions and fully in production personal projects. Those obviously learned through a different path that what most had 20 years ago, but they're definitely not an exception either, and I genuinely think there is an adaptation process that many are missing.
Perhaps everyone can't follow that path. but not everyone could follow the previous one either. We'll probably only know when the dust fully settles.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.
Should those other people be made to RTO and spend less time around their kids, to fill in your isolated lifestyle?
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.
Should those other people be made to RTO and spend less time around their kids, to fill in your isolated lifestyle?
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#95I couldn't imagine working remote straight out of college. I'm very glad I work remote now though.
Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.
It was brutal before any glimpse of remote work, open offices didn't help in any way.
Some saw remote work as a way out of the quagmire, others like you had it worse.
PS: participation in local communities would benefit both the lonely people and the community.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it's awful and the lack of any sympathy from people further along in their career with kids made it even worse. Everyone thinks it's great but I literally developed depression and anxiety from isolation.
Should those other people be made to RTO and spend less time around their kids, to fill in your isolated lifestyle?
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#97In my anecdotal experience in a FAANG, weak junior hiring started during the hiring freezes in mid 2022, and was made worse by the layoff cycles that began soon after. Once you know headcount is going to be extremely tight indefinitely, you want to use your precious few slots to hire someone that can deliver value pretty quickly, rather than take years to coach up. It personally seems hard to connect that to remote w…
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#98AI is not responsible for anything at the moment, except making existing senior developers reasonably more efficient for sleeve of tasks, but not the tasks that take the most time. Saying "we don't need as many staff because AI" is an oft-repeated trope because it sounds like a reasonable excuse to fire people. It's nearly impossible to back up the claim with any measurable method, and investors will look aside on th…
There is also plenty of freelance / artistry type people who would of had work before (i.e creating Halloween, mothers day, Easter, etc) promotional material which is now just outsourced to AI. You see some of the biggest companies on Earth posting AI stuff for special event, etc.
Most aren't at the stage of using full AI "art" for advertisements (except maybe Coke) but some of these companies would already have full time artists, which they've bypassed. Their jobs are not forever and eventually will get killed.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#99AI is not responsible for anything at the moment, except making existing senior developers reasonably more efficient for sleeve of tasks, but not the tasks that take the most time. Saying "we don't need as many staff because AI" is an oft-repeated trope because it sounds like a reasonable excuse to fire people. It's nearly impossible to back up the claim with any measurable method, and investors will look aside on th…
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#100I have found working with remote first natives that the narrowness of their knowledge is also very high. When you work in an office there is a some knowledge transfer happening having lunch with the guy in accounts or the women in the sales team. This non structured learning is missed in remote work.
Of course if everyone is working remotely via email this isn't going to happen.
I've had the same problem in person too (silos, no one talking) so I think it's more about structure than remote/in-person.