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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by colechristensen »

hacker_homie wrote: post #68

Could he take them to small claims court one Lego set at a time, get a judgment against the business then go in with the sheriff and start taking stuff to cover the judgement?

No. Small claims are for claims which are small. This belongs in civil court all at once and you don't get to go in with the sheriff (if you win) unless they are ordered to pay you and refuse to.

There are explicit rules against claim splitting and you risk either the judge combining all of your filings into one case and moving it to a different court or dismissing all of the claims after the first one. There are very good reasons why a person can't keep suing you over and over for the same event.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by Aurornis »

Animats wrote: post #38

This guy tried to resolve a legal dispute without a lawyer. Any competent business lawyer should have been able to straighten this out within days. He even tried to do process service himself, which nobody does. You pay a process server $100 or so for that.

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by pimlottc »

senkora wrote: post #74
pimlottc wrote: post #53

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It seems to be a real definition, see definition 6 under etymology 2: > (transitive, law, especially New Zealand)[1] To subject [someone] to a trespass notice, formally notifying them that they are prohibited from entry to a property, such that any current or future presence there will constitute trespass, (especially) criminal trespass https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trespass#English

Ah, I thought that could be the case but didn't see it listed in Merrium-Webster [0]. Seems like it is legal jargon, so might be better to use plain language here.

0: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trespass

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by kenmacd »

colechristensen wrote: post #91
hacker_homie wrote: post #68

Could he take them to small claims court one Lego set at a time, get a judgment against the business then go in with the sheriff and start taking stuff to cover the judgement?

No. Small claims are for claims which are small. This belongs in civil court all at once and you don't get to go in with the sheriff (if you win) unless they are ordered to pay you and refuse to. There are explicit rules against claim splitting and you risk either the judge combining all of your filings into one case and moving it to a different court or dismissing all of the claims after the first one. There are ver…

Watch the video. They worked around this by selling lego sets to 10 different people (as it was still owned by the lego owner), then the 10 different people all opened separate $10k suits, which they all won.

Then corporate shut down the location to avoid paying the suits they lost.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by Aurornis »

thevinter wrote: post #83
Aurornis wrote: post #65

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> I feel bad for the guy who lost some LEGO sets. I do not like the podcasters and bloggers milking him for content for their media channels The statements made by the company are simply untrue. And the guy who lost the LEGO sets (worth 100k$ btw) is directly working with the "bloggers" because they're his last avenue. He's also incredibly grateful to them because thanks to them he at least ended up winning in small…

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Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by ryandrake »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #89
hacker_homie wrote: post #68

Could he take them to small claims court one Lego set at a time, get a judgment against the business then go in with the sheriff and start taking stuff to cover the judgement?

They already have a judgement against the business for the full amount. But the business chose to close rather than pay

I dont understand how that works: The entire $400M business decided to close over $200K judgment? Or just the single store? If just the store, why did they sue the store and not the underlying business?

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by bena »

FireBeyond wrote: post #64
lvl155 wrote: post #10

Adults ruined LEGO. There I said it.

Star Wars LEGO seems to be the worst. I went to the Bellevue, WA store a few years ago before Christmas. I have no interest in SW or SW LEGO (I'm much more into the Architecture series). I was walking around though, and an associate came up to me and pointed out that the Death Star (IIRC) was about to stop being sold so if I wanted one I should grab it... "... and that we have several of it, so if you want allll of t…

I assume they were talking about 75159 right before it retired.

I think that was when Lego speculation was just becoming a bigger thing.

Now, I don't think something like that could retire with stock being on the shelf.

I grabbed Betrayal at Cloud City (75222) from my local Lego Store after it retired because they still had one in stock. I don't think I'll get that lucky again.

Especially with the push for exclusive Gift With Purchase (GWP) sets. It's become slightly ridiculous.

But I'm not a speculator, I'm just a dude who likes assembling plastic bricks.

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by usehand »

Aurornis wrote: post #81
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that hard to understand. A man gave a store merchandise on consignment, signed a contract with the store manager. The manager lost control of the store to corporate. The goods were still there, still on display and being sold. Corporate says, "this is mine now" and refuses to honor the contract. "It wasn't our name on it, says right here that the previous store manager signed this, and she's no longer with u…

Forgive me if I'm trying to figure out what's going on here. I just read the linked blog and some of the links within, but I don't have time to watch all these long YouTube videos > The goods were still there, still on display and being sold. The store says the full inventory was not discoverable at the store. They said the person gave a written statement in the past saying the collection was "moved off site for secu…

If that's the case why did they lose the small claims cases?

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by scotty79 »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #18
gkoberger wrote: post #11

I'm really confused by this blog. There seems to be a large portion of the story missing. I can't figure out the correlation between the owner losing their franchise and the rest of the story. Why did they want to steal the sets? If they're really a $400M company (whatever that means), why would they do this over (at most) $200k? I couldn't figure out what is being claimed here. I'm not saying it's not true, I just c…

It's not that hard to understand. A man gave a store merchandise on consignment, signed a contract with the store manager. The manager lost control of the store to corporate. The goods were still there, still on display and being sold. Corporate says, "this is mine now" and refuses to honor the contract. "It wasn't our name on it, says right here that the previous store manager signed this, and she's no longer with u…

> It seems like theft, but it's a very common civil contract dispute.

What if he reported theft? Wouldn't they have to prove how did they come into possession of the goods they are selling?

Re: Bricks and Minifigs Stole a Man's $200k Lego Collection

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Post by quietsegfault »

standardly wrote: post #52

This seems like an easily arbitrated dispute. But I'm not privy to all the details and IANAL.

The problem with the legal system in cases like this is if you have the police in your pocket, you can manipulate the perception of the truth and feel confident in bullying your adversary.
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