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Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Water is handled at the city level, not the federal level. If you have incompetent local leadership, this can happen. Incompetent local leaders can (and have!) bankrupted their cities.

Texas also is all about no/low taxes.

Meanwhile in Flint Michigan…

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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The charges have already been dismissed: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/charges-dismissed-against-... Good on the grand jury for not indicting this ham sandwich.

That town now has not just a bad water problem, but a large free speech lawsuit problem.

Maybe they could dock the Chief's retirement account?

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Qualified immunity, as a concept, makes perfect sense. Police officers are not jurists, and they will make mistakes in enforcing the law. Making those officers personally liable for honest mistakes is, IMO, excessive. The issue isn't qualified immunity itself, but rather the maximalist interpretation that seems pervasive in the US justice system, and the overwhelmingly…

I think you would find that they would make far fewer illegal mistakes if they actually had to deal with the consequences of those mistakes. Qualified Immunity didn't exist as a concept until the 1960s, and it was put in place to shield policemen enacting racist policies and corrupt cronies of Nixon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity

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Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Qualified immunity, as a concept, makes perfect sense. Police officers are not jurists, and they will make mistakes in enforcing the law. Making those officers personally liable for honest mistakes is, IMO, excessive. The issue isn't qualified immunity itself, but rather the maximalist interpretation that seems pervasive in the US justice system, and the overwhelmingly…

I think you would find that they would make far fewer illegal mistakes if they actually had to deal with the consequences of those mistakes. Qualified Immunity didn't exist as a concept until the 1960s, and it was put in place to shield policemen enacting racist policies and corrupt cronies of Nixon. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity

I think we would see far fewer actions at all for fear of being sued.

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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I'm not a lawyer, but I think qualified immunity should not apply to constitutional violations. Giving an opt-out for those violations is antithetical to the very substance of our (US) constitution.

It's weird to me that courts don't at-least attempt to review if the conduct was in good faith and plausibly reasonable given the facts know at the time.

The idea that officials aren't personally liable for mistakes made in good faith isn't bad. But somehow the US tends to produce a lot of cases where good faith requires a lot of faith :)

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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The Federal government enforces a few rules and then leaves things to the state and people. Obviously that means the state and people have no nanny to protect them from consequences of their decisions. If they drain their budgets fighting the civil rights of their population instead of fixing a problem then they might look like a lot of bankrupt municipalities. The US is obligated to let that happen.

Not really. The federal government bails Texas out of the messes they get themselves into all the time (like their shitty power grid). Historically, Texas has often received more in federal funding than it contributes in federal taxes.

Sure, most of the South is in a hypocritical position of claiming to want the federal system I described, I want them to get it..

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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Qualified Immunity should not apply ever. Period. No one should be above the law for any reason ever.

Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Qualified immunity, as a concept, makes perfect sense. Police officers are not jurists, and they will make mistakes in enforcing the law. Making those officers personally liable for honest mistakes is, IMO, excessive. The issue isn't qualified immunity itself, but rather the maximalist interpretation that seems pervasive in the US justice system, and the overwhelmingly…

    Qualified immunity, as a concept, makes perfect sense. Police officers are not jurists, and they will make mistakes in enforcing the law. Making those officers personally liable for honest mistakes is, IMO, excessive.
Your own usage of "honest mistake" is overwhelmingly broad, so it's not at all clear what alternative definition of qualified immunity you are advocating.

Re: Texas woman arrested for Facebook post about town water quality

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upon inspection of images pertaining to water at the point of usage, i declare said water to be Alaskan well water.

use a 5micron, and 1micron particulate filter in series, and it looks like it came from a bottle.

you would be well advised to test for heavy metals, esp. arsenic

most people here dont use softening or reverse osmosis

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