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Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#91

Well, imagine not having the time in the world to read the 40 page docs that are referenced on a forum like this. By the time you read, analyze, absorb and make a conclusion, it is time to hit the sack. So, AI helps to analyze, TLDR, summarize the data. In a lot of cases, it's a question of time, not intelligence. HN is not a message board known for balanced opinions. I've found it to be a place where hate, threats g…

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Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#92

Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person. At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses. The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and bia…

While I endorse the message of TFA (though do find the framing a bit on the overly blunt side), I believe it's unfair to reduce to "losing the person". The person is still willing to engage with you and still had to use their human words to prompt the AI. The latent space they exposed within the model is still uniquely the result of their words and effort. We're just missing the establishment of a decorum of, "even i…

> The person is still willing to engage with you

But the highlighted examples demonstrate the complete opposite. Shuttling things between a model isn’t engaging with another human meaningfully.

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#93
What a rude response to someone's attempt to help someone else out by expending their AI subscription tokens to answer their question. At least they started their comment by disclosing the text was generated by AI - they should be rewarded for that - punishing them for it by insulting them, telling their brain is a gizmo, and telling them not to have children, is aggressive, not going to have the desired outcome, and is only going to make it less likely they disclose that information in future. If you don't want to read an AI response, you can stop reading after the disclosure that it's an AI response. This is a somewhat obnoxious site, in my personal (and human) opinion. Send to others at your own risk I say (of being defriended, fired, or blocked).

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#94

Overdramatic: when I saw friends and acquaintances doing this I couldn't help but feeling a slight sense of loss--that we (I) have lost the person. At that point, is the person still even a person? He's nothing more but a meat RPA, copy pasting responses. The reason I value a person is the uniqueness of the person's brain's weights and biases. When I lose access to that and I get ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini weights and bia…

Suppose they simply directly quoted Wikipedia or some other expert authority, with attribution, rather than AI. Would you say the same thing? The person isn't giving you the uniqueness of their brain's weights and biases when they do that, either. That doesn't make the response any less helpful or appropriate in the situation.

People quote other sources sometimes. That's entirely OK. In fact, sometimes it's completely appropriate. We have to get used to the idea that sometimes, that source will be AI, and pretty soon (if not already) it will be just as authoritative and correct as Wikipedia or any other expert the person might quote.

If you don't like it, instead of responding by sending them a link to an aggressive, insulting, disrespectful and frankly low emotional IQ site like this, you can just say, "OK, thanks, that's great, but what's your opinion? I'm genuinely interested in hearing what you think." Unfortunately, if you send a link to this site, you are more than likely to lose the person entirely from the conversation anyway.

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

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I don't know what's worse: 1. Asking a question which could be answered by an AI 2. Pasting an AI response to something If 1 is fair game, I'd say 2 is too.

You should know. I find it hard to believe, in fact, that you don't know.

Telling people they shouldn't even ask questions that can theoretically be Googled/AI'd with enough time or blind trust is hideous in the extreme, and absolutely antithetical to the ideas of humanity and intellectual curiosity. I would like to never hear such a suggestion come out of anybody's mouth, particularly on HN.

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#99
post #93

What a rude response to someone's attempt to help someone else out by expending their AI subscription tokens to answer their question. At least they started their comment by disclosing the text was generated by AI - they should be rewarded for that - punishing them for it by insulting them, telling their brain is a gizmo, and telling them not to have children, is aggressive, not going to have the desired outcome, and…

You entirely missed the point in the article: Everybody has access to AI. Nobody needs another person proxying it slowly and poorly in a worse medium than direct access.

Replying with AI responses is equal to saying that you're no longer relevant or valuable to the discussion. If you are annoyed by that and want to block people, fine, obviously nothing of value will be lost because they can just go to the source directly next time instead of you.

They're not doing anyone any favors by disclosing it either, and anyone replying with AI verbatim but undisclosed also isn't going to be savvy enough to hide the other tells and quirks. Assuming they're ever asked again for their "input".

Re: Don't just paste the AI at me

#100
post #93

What a rude response to someone's attempt to help someone else out by expending their AI subscription tokens to answer their question. At least they started their comment by disclosing the text was generated by AI - they should be rewarded for that - punishing them for it by insulting them, telling their brain is a gizmo, and telling them not to have children, is aggressive, not going to have the desired outcome, and…

You entirely missed the point in the article: Everybody has access to AI. Nobody needs another person proxying it slowly and poorly in a worse medium than direct access. Replying with AI responses is equal to saying that you're no longer relevant or valuable to the discussion. If you are annoyed by that and want to block people, fine, obviously nothing of value will be lost because they can just go to the source dire…

On the contrary, I completely understand the point of the article. I disagree that there are no people who benefit from another person using AI on their behalf.

Everybody has free access to Google, Wikipedia, and Bing - that doesn't make sharing quotes from those sources worthy of abusive language telling people they shouldn't have children. Some people really do find value in another person opening up their ChatGPT subscription, crafting a suitable prompt, and passing on the response. There is absolutely some value in that, and many AI models are not even free.

Even just with Google, some people aren't very good at crafting search queries. Crafting a query or a prompt, deciding which model to use, vetting and sharing the response - these all add value beyond just "proxying it slowly and poorly".

Replying with an AI response can absolutely be relevant and valuable to a discussion, just as replying with a quote from Wikipedia or some other authority can be.

On the other hand, flaming people for trying to help you is, frankly, obnoxious, even if you don't appreciate the help or the manner in which it was offered.

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