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Shunning AI is the human choice

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Post by chasd00 »

stuartjohnson12 wrote: post #21
echelon wrote: post #8

I'm in film and highly exposed to the AI media and arts scene. I was very early to this hate, and I've experienced it personally by the metric boat load. I'm fine with people not liking the technology, but the number of death threats, rude comments ("your mother didn't use the coat hanger well enough"), and literal stalking and doxxing I've received from some of these rabidly anti-AI people is appalling. Whatever com…

I do think that AI tools make creativity better and not worse. I grew up with Youtube poops, photoshop, garry's mod, and flash. Being able to go from idea to asset in a fast, throwaway capacity lets you nuance and remix jokes and media on a level that isn't possible with traditional creative software. I got into software because I wanted to make things that I wanted. I think it is a great thing that the ability to ma…

I was president of a neighborhood association in an entertainment district in Dallas TX some years ago ( Deep Ellum ). The group worked really hard to get Deep Ellum out of nasty downturn and bring new business to the neighborhood. We got a lot of push back from people wanting Deep Ellum to return to the way it was in the late 90s. That was impossible, nothing will ever return to the WayItWas(tm). What I realized was a lot of those voices wanted their lives to be like it was in the late 90s, it had nothing to do with the neighborhood, it was them. I think many people who get the angriest are actually angry with themselves and not the issue du jour.

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Post by DrewADesign »

empath75 wrote: post #44
lccerina wrote: post #24

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If you burned down every data center in the world, AI would still not go away. It's just a computer program. You can run it on your laptop. You can't burn down an idea.

Not too many people have a problem with AI technologies conceptually, and arguing like they do is ignoring the real criticism in favor of semantics. People have a problem with the economics of how AI things are being implemented, positioned, marketed, and used. Burning data centers would radically change the economics of AI.

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Post by BosunoB »

Counterpoint: Work sucks. Of the billions of workers on the planet, the number of them who love their job and would truly be doing it even if they didn't need to in order to survive is probably in the low single digits.

Hating work is good, wanting it to all be automated is good. It is a pro-human flourishing stance, whereas keeping the majority of humanity laboring in jobs they dislike just to survive is against human flourishing in favor of the status quo.

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Post by 1shooner »

b65e8bee43c2ed0 wrote: post #28
satvikpendem wrote: post #5

Interesting what the disconnect is between what the vocal minority say about AI versus the vast majority who use it every day and do not care, such as coders and even regular people, as ChatGPT has almost a billion users.

it is very amusing to read delusional takes like "everyone hates AI" when everyone I know who uses a computer for work is increasingly reliant on chatbots. I don't know how many times do these people need to be taught that their little bubble of terminally online folx is not "everyone". twice is not enough, apparently.

"My bubble is more correct then the bubble of those I disagree with". There are objective data to refer to:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/03/12/key-findi...

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3955

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Post by mhitza »

Ampersander wrote: post #68
lccerina wrote: post #24

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People can't even be arsed to vote in elections. Nobody is going to be burning anything. There's Netflix to watch and doom to scroll.

Roman colloseums in our pockets. Maybe climate change effects will be a factor in the rich getting eaten.

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Post by metaltyphoon »

worldsavior wrote: post #80
echelon wrote: post #63

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Your wife is right. History is repeating itself. And not even for the first time. Horse carriage drivers -> Cars Print media -> Internet Drafting -> CAD Music -> Electronic music, DAWs Film photography -> Digital Traditional film special effects -> CGI Hollywood nepotism -> YouTube / TikTok / Creator economy (there are more millionaire creators now than movie stars) In each of these cases, there was a subset of peopl…

What is the transition now? Science and whatever someone with a computer can create -> AI prompting?

Thinking -> Pay something else (AI) to "think" for you

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Post by AntronX »

I wish tech companies would stop shoving AI in my face everywhere. F off google i don't want to "ask ai" in maps. Get that ugly ai button off from messenger, meta. At least microslop winblows lets me remove crapilot buttons from apps.

Re: Shunning AI is the human choice

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Post by malfist »

splittydev wrote: post #2

These people are going to have a really hard time coming to grips with reality in the next few years. AI is here to stay, and it's expanding very rapidly. If you can't fight them, join them.

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Post by mpalmer »

splittydev wrote: post #2

These people are going to have a really hard time coming to grips with reality in the next few years. AI is here to stay, and it's expanding very rapidly. If you can't fight them, join them.

I don't hate AI - how can you, really? It's the humans behind it we should be focusing on.

What I have, and cannot shake, is a growing contempt for all the AI pushers and many of the users, as they make choices that clearly go against the public interest.

- Students graduating into a job desert as CEOs urge them to "get on the rocket ship"

- Data centers spewing noise and waste into communities

- The ongoing collective cognitive retreat of students, teachers(!) and knowledge workers in general

- Consumers reacting to low-quality AI output by lowering their standards to match

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