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Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is tha…

OpenAI seems to be dumping a LOT of money into marketing on social media at least.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#92
post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

Some people are good at developing the sciences. Others are good at developing commercial products.

And tesla is not a good place for science development. Tesla is structured from narcissistic mindset: results driven, cynical, and position-based. This doesn’t bode well for long term sciences.

I dont see how he could be helping anthropic

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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I have been impressed by some of his work, especially on the vulgarisation and simplification. Excellent communicator and engineer. But I am a bit more skeptical about his taste and vision.

Leaving OpenAI to work for Elon Musk was a poor move, and AFAIK his work on CV at Tesla did not bring anything groundbreaking, unfortunately probably the opposite (the bet on camera-only driven system did not pay off) and his talks about the approach would indicate that his whole idea to make it work was nothing more than hill-climbing.

Also, his over-reaction to the whole Claw thing was a bit ridiculous, in my opinion.

I don't see him as a Scientist in the field, but more as an efficient tinkerer.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#94

Funny. He foreshadowed this in a recent interview. Saying that he may fall out of touch with evolving approaches and if any of the frontier labs would have him, he’d be interested. https://youtu.be/kwSVtQ7dziU?t=47m50s

Someone at Anthropic watched and lit a fire.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#95
post #2

The big question is... Why now? What happened to Eureka Labs? Maybe the IPO potential was just too great to ignore and maybe AGI (A Giant IPO) is around the corner.

AGI around the corner. Comparatively little point educating people instead of machines

If someone knew AGI was around the corner they'd be buying an island and a yacht not taking on a job.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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post #47
post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I mean, you would think that all those people he killed as the person in charge of deploying knowingly dangerously defective self-driving software for profit would have had a impact. But executives seem to just skate on killing customers to line their own pockets these days. Just "following orders" I guess.

He deployed, not just developed?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#98
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i wouldn't be surprised if he just becomes a glorified marketer for anthro. im also going to guess that whatever research he does would be free roam research that primarily serves to market the fact that claude was able to help perform the research. the visible stuff he's been working on has been mostly agent soft skills. off the top of my head is autoresearch and his the wiki knowledge stuff. nothing particularly gr…

I think you are underestimating both the value of both projects (autoresearch and personal wiki) just because they are simple. I see both POCs for continuous learning / optmization on the harness layer, which in my opinion is a very interesting direction. I think Andrej has the experience (and now ressources) to productionize this research into something very interesting. p.s. called it > Karpathy will help launch a…

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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#99
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just becomes a glorified marketer That implies Karpathy is either dumb or desperate and he is neither of those by a long shot.

I don’t think it does. I think it’s better phrased that he is market ing rather than a markete r . He can do whatever he wants to do, in return Anthropic gets to say “hey, this guy works with us!”

Different people have different wants and needs. It's perfectly reasonable to work on some interesting projects and to be something of a figurehead.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#100
post #7

AI news and ESPN feels interchangeable sometimes.

At least with sports teams they entertain me and I can be a fan. For "X person joins Y company" I don't have a reason to care.

I’m the opposite.

My “entertainment”, or intrigue, comes from the ability to impact my life.

Other people sporting struggles to catch my attention longer than the play itself, for that reason.

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