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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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rblatz wrote: post #85
the_af wrote: post #67

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> My favorite example is AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session Never seen this even once , nor anyone I know ever reported this. Do you have an example?

I see laziness all the time, Claude will be helping me plan work and then it will ask me how a piece of code is implemented. I then have the choice of manually verifying how it works, or to tell it to look for itself. Ideally it would just look without being told.

That doesn't seem to be laziness, and is unrelated to how long the session has been going on.

It's crazy that we're concluding "personality" or human-like traits from this. There's definitely human behavior here, but it's unsurprisingly coming from us, the observers! This is something we've long known exists in the human brain, the tendency to pattern match and see intelligence/intent in the rest of the world. Any serious experiment must guard against this...

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by dist-epoch »

I've listened to DJ Gemini for a few hours, and I think it's quite good.

The voice in particular is amazing, I wouldn't have tell it's generated. And it's modulated according to the program - quieter during chill, more energetic otherwise, .... Unlike Opus which sounds quite robotic.

What I don't like is that Gemini keeps on mentioning the "tip jar" almost every time. Gets annoying fast. And when it's song buying was broken was kept mentioning that too.

All the radios have a very limited selections of songs, so they repeat quite a lot.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by gwbas1c »

IdiotSavage wrote: post #17

Guys, this is not replacing your favorite station, you don't have to listen to it. It's an experiment. If you scroll down a bit, there are various audio snippets of interesting dialogue the models produced. I think it's interesting to see in which ways the models fail and that they actually produce some good stuff once in a while.

> this is not replacing your favorite station

My favorite radio station was replaced years ago by an automated playlist. They just kept playing the same 5-6 songs that were popular on the station in the 1990s.

It was fun for about 2 hours before I realized the station was devoid of all the personality that made it worth listening to when I was younger.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by logdahl »

dfee wrote: post #36

i'm surprised how negative of a reception Andon is getting here on HN. keep hacking, Andon!

For me its 2 things. Firstly, I mean the posts are always a fun read but it feels like just that, not much deeper insight. Secondly, its very self promotion-y. This account is almost exclusively posting / interacting with Andon content, which afaik is against HN guidelines. These two in combination makes the content feel more like marketing than contribution to discussions. I feel like some other companies manage to share interesting work and market. But maybe its just my taste :^)

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by ajmurmann »

bananamogul wrote: post #38

"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common…

It seems like they have something akin to personalities: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mgjtEHeLgkhZZ3cEx/models-hav...

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by FergusArgyll »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #68
pixl97 wrote: post #46

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> I mean, do children have personalities if we left them in a dark room with no interactions with other humans? I think this makes for an interesting discussion as I went down the rabbit hole of this which really scared me actually as these experiments are really not humane and hinder children's development so much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_deprivation_experimen... : "forbidden experiment" It depends on…

Herodotus tells a story of egyptian kings (iirc) trying to figure out which people is the oldest. They put a few kids in a barn and servants fed them through a hole or something. The kids eventually blurted out something and the king sent messengers everywhere to find out if they have that sound as a word. It ended up meaning "bread" in a language I can't pronounce nor remember how to spell.

The good old days when experiments were done without any common sense whatsoever...

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by pj_mukh »

nomel wrote: post #83
the_af wrote: post #67

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> My favorite example is AI "getting tired" and "lazy" during long coding session Never seen this even once , nor anyone I know ever reported this. Do you have an example?

First I saw it was Claude Opus 3.7. Had a very long back and fourth about some code, I pointed out an error, and Claude responded "That's what I get for programming at 2am", with the output being filled with "... code here ..." type shortcuts, basically no ability to one-shot a whole implementation anymore. The conversation length WAS reasonably into the 2am range, if it were real. Thought about it, did the statistic…

Are you sure you didn't run out credits and set effort to low? This exact thing happened to me when I did that. It just became, kinda lazy.
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