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Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by Levitz »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #77
Levitz wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the first three sound completely awesome and the latter two are basically propaganda. "innovating misinformation vectors" and "might doom humanity" are far better descriptors for about every social network out there, or even the internet. These same people would probably riot if social media was made to disappear. As everything regarding college campuses opinion nowadays, it's down to politics. It's not about…

I think to most people, "you won't have to work any more" sounds like a good thing, except in our current society, it means "oh by the way, you and your children will starve".

Yeah I absolutely agree, if you ask me Andrew Yang should be getting calls about every day now, and UBI should be getting mentioned far more, but none of that is happening.

Opposing technology has a godawful track record and for some reason there's focus on that rather than tackling the actual problems. I bet that behind closed doors, directives are laughing at college students. Why, they are basically playing misdirection for them! It's fantastic for business.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by logicchains »

gilrain wrote: post #87
logicchains wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is inevitable in the sense that if a country rejects the development of AI, it'll eventually end up subjugated military by the robots of a country that did invest in AI.

Actually, it’s possible other countries don’t have our counterproductively-murderous instincts. You’re looking in a mirror and you fear yourself.

You're looking in a mirror and seeing somebody who never read a history book. Every single powerful nation that exists today was built upon war and invasion of some groups by other groups.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by camillomiller »

arn3n wrote: post #3

I would be disappointed if someone took the completion of my degree and the ceremony behind it as an opportunity to push their business. There’s enough advertisements on the internet; We don't need ads in our universities, too.

I think the tech downward spiral is described quite well by the way we went from a historical Steve Jobs commencement address at Stanford to this.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by sevenzero »

Levitz wrote: post #84
nkrisc wrote: post #49

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“Hateful woke culture”? You know the “woke” people are on to something when their critics project their own flaws back onto “woke culture” as a means to delegitimize it. “Woke” is a reaction to hateful culture. “Hateful woke” is the modern “reverse racism”.

>“Hateful woke culture”? You know the “woke” people are on to something when their critics project their own flaws back onto “woke culture” as a means to delegitimize it. You might have had a point before a certain someone got shot in the neck for saying stuff. You don't anymore. "Hateful woke culture" is actually a pretty apt descriptor. I've never seen violence being so widely, publicly supported and it doesn't see…

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Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by SadErn »

chilmers wrote: post #21
nxm wrote: post #11

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Fauci’s on the last people who should be schooling people about misinformation

And I’ll bet you can cite us a whole list of Rogan podcasts explaining why, eh?

- "Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely, entirely and completely incorrect. The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology."

- "There's no reason to be walking around with a mask."

- "The accusation being circulated that I influenced the scientists to change their minds by bribing them with millions of dollars in grant money is absolutely false and simply preposterous."

- "When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community. In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere."

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by keybored »

logicchains wrote: post #80
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #51

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> It had the vibe of “These people need to hear the Truth”. Schmidt anticipated the response, but does not understand it. He falls flat on his face here precisely because "needing to hear the truth" is a self-contradiction. The very fact that he has to go around saying 'AI is inevitable, suck it up you live in our world now', proves that it's not true. Nothing that is actually inevitable is declared as such. Nobody g…

AI is inevitable in the sense that if a country rejects the development of AI, it'll eventually end up subjugated military by the robots of a country that did invest in AI.

> AI is inevitable in the sense that if a country rejects the development of AI, [AI inevitabilism premise]

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by JPC21 »

10xDev wrote: post #8
Havoc wrote: post #6

Noticing it more on YouTube too - scripts that are definitely AI. Tons of it’s not z it’s y

I wouldn't be surprised if AI is also influencing how people talk/write. I felt like I used it is not x it is y a couple of times recently and not sure whether I am just being more aware of it or if it is becoming a part of my own writing pattern because of LLMs.

I noticed something similar. Phrases I have noticed that Claude likes using are "... is doing major work ..." and "... worth pulling apart ...". Unfortunately, some of these have subconsciously become part of my own writing style as I noticed recently. English is not my mother tongue, so I'm pretty sure that I inherited these from Claude.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by d4rkp4ttern »

I can see where it's coming from. Putting it starkly, at a high level, the broad effect of AI is this:

    devaluation of expertise,
whether in coding, or drawing, or music composition, or writing, or translation, or so many other areas.

College students working hard to gain expertise in specific areas are faced with the prospect that this very expertise is being "democratized" by AI, putting it in the hands of literally anyone. Sure, true expertise is still needed to "validate" (and train) the AI, etc, etc, but that's a small consolation.

Relatedly, a year ago I was excited to learn the Rust language. Now I don't see the point (And I'm building tools with Rust). I'm sure this sentiment extends across fields.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by SadErn »

breezybottom wrote: post #36
va1a wrote: post #31

I've noticed, as a student, that many college students - particularly those not in STEM/engineering fields - have an almost irrational hatred of AI. It's to the point where they'll mock you for using it, even when it provides such an insane productivity boost. I understand the disdain for trying to inject the concept everywhere, and like any new technology, it's apt to be used where it is unneeded, and mentioned when…

You do realize luddites were people made unemployable and impoverished by new technology? Calling them luddites just proves their point.

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Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by azan_ »

_heimdall wrote: post #25
jbs789 wrote: post #13

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Silicon Valley has really screwed up here. They are so obsessed with their own importance (this kit is so powerful it can destroy the world!) they have failed to sell/inform the average joe. It’s a tool. And the next generation probably benefits from learning how to use it effectively. The hype has gotten in the way of reality.

A good start would have been them not calling this artificial intelligence at all. The hype is largely based on the term "AI" and if it really is simply a (very impressive) auto complete tool it isn't intelligence at all, though as you said can be a very useful tool.

It's amazing that there are people who still believe in "it's just autocomplete". It hasn't been true for a long time, but currently it's position that reveals complete lack of awareness how good AI has become. It has solved Erdos problem using novel approach. Constant moving of goalpost is recurring theme when discussing AI, but it's really impossible to move it so far that you can frame this achievement as "impressive autocomplete".
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