Not sure I get the point of the author. I really like the Mediterranean schedule but it's far from "solar based" we stay up until midnight normally. I like it from a different point of view, which is that stores are opened after I finish working. The average worker doesn't have time for a siesta in the middle of the day. But once you finish working at 5, things are still open. You can go to the dentist, you can go sh…
Time off of work to get a haircut is insane. Aren't there barbershops open in the evening?
Solar-based sleep patterns compared to modern norms
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Re: Solar-based sleep patterns compared to modern norms
#92One additional quirk of the modern world is that we now sleep on average one hour less than a century ago (median of 7,5 instead of 8,5). Sleep science says this is probably ok ish but really actually not. If you’re constantly tired just remember 8 hours of sleep was invented 60 years ago…
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the true South European spirit! So many problems in life would become easier reducing the working hours .
In Germany it's a common prejudice that people in southern Europe work less. Data shows otherwise: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/d...
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the true South European spirit! So many problems in life would become easier reducing the working hours .
Funny you say that when Spain, Portugal, and Greece work more hours than Germany or the Netherlands.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
This particular data doesn't show this. Just in case: I'm neither German nor Southern European, and I declare my neutrality. For starters, it shows time spent at work. Meanwhile employees can do varying amount of work in the same amount of time. And I suppose that's what those Germans you referring to mean. Second as the document notes: "The results are affected by the varying proportions of part-time workers across…
I read an article many years ago, by a man who was working 80 hour weeks. He analyzed his work and tried to optimize it. Eventually he cut his working hours in half, while actually doubling his output, because the shorter work hours required him to actually focus. He was, of course, self-employed, and could design his work week how he liked. I guess that's important for another reason: if someone else had been paying…
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#96There are three aspects of solar sleep: 1. Going to bed early and rising early, closer to 8 pm to 4:30 am. 2. An afternoon nap is extremely beneficial to having an attentive and productive evening. The nap makes quick work of clearing accumulated waste from the brain. Employers would do well to have nap pods for a 30 minute nap as a default, although longer is useful if you don't have a 9-5 job. A nap doesn't negate…
I _wish_ I could nap after hearing all the benefits, but for me it’s either doze off for five minutes and wake up feeling blah, or lie there for 10 minutes, MAYBE go to sleep for a bit and wake up feeling horrible. If I have light to anchor my circadian rhythm, I’m happiest waking up around 5:30-6:00 and going straight through, starting to wind down at 8:30. If I sleep later, I’ll end up shifting more towards natural…
For myself my attentiveness and energy tend to slump later in the day if I don't so obviously I'm better off the other way around from you.
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#97As someone who lives in Spain, a country that also has a tradition of siestas (that's where that name comes from after all), I have a lot of doubts and I think people romanticize the idea too much. First of all I have no doubts about the health benefit of siestas, but in the current society they have some issues. When I was younger I hated siestas because I had energy and everything was closed, you couldn't do anythi…
Also a huge difference between summer temperatures in, say, Galicia and Andalucía. Siestas make some sense in somewhere like Sevilla when temperatures top 40 degrees and it's hard to do anything anywhere that's not air conditioned, and particularly manual labour outside, but in Coruña when it's high 20s to mid 30s at most it's just not the same. (Although climate change is dragging both of those top temperatures up,…
Re: Solar-based sleep patterns compared to modern norms
#98As someone who lives in Spain, a country that also has a tradition of siestas (that's where that name comes from after all), I have a lot of doubts and I think people romanticize the idea too much. First of all I have no doubts about the health benefit of siestas, but in the current society they have some issues. When I was younger I hated siestas because I had energy and everything was closed, you couldn't do anythi…
Spaniard here. The 'siesta' is just to combat - avoid - midday heat, specially in southern regions.
I have no idea why they're called spaniards.
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#99I think you, the breadwinner, did NOT go to the shops. Your wife did. I don't know when 9-5 started, but it kinds of smacks of the British being that regimented. By contrast, my observation is that MOST of the world's population still works from about an hour after dawn until early afternoon, or sometimes until dusk, depending on their age, job, station in life and the general level of resources they have versus what…
>I think you, the breadwinner, did NOT go to the shops. Your wife did. This is an interesting point. It makes me wonder what unmarried people did, though. I suppose if you stayed with family, your mother would go to the shops. Did young people not used to live on their own as commonly?
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the true South European spirit! So many problems in life would become easier reducing the working hours .
In Germany it's a common prejudice that people in southern Europe work less. Data shows otherwise: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/d...