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MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by para_parolu »

y1n0 wrote: post #88
Havoc wrote: post #85

Recently dived into mac world (air) too after decades of win/linux. Pleasant experience and very impressed by hardware and polish except wow the keyboard/shortcut situation is absolutely cursed. Not different...actually cursed. Who decided that sometimes its cmd+Q to close a window while other times its cmd+W and some apps support both but with different behaviours and knowing which of the three it is depends on know…

What app doesn’t support cmd-w?

Some apps close window. Some apps close tabs. Some apps can close tab or window. Some apps require double press (chrome)

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by GeekyBear »

Havoc wrote: post #85

Recently dived into mac world (air) too after decades of win/linux. Pleasant experience and very impressed by hardware and polish except wow the keyboard/shortcut situation is absolutely cursed. Not different...actually cursed. Who decided that sometimes its cmd+Q to close a window while other times its cmd+W and some apps support both but with different behaviours and knowing which of the three it is depends on know…

The standard behavior is that:

Command Q quits the currently active application.

Command W closes the current window without quitting the active application.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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washingupliquid wrote: post #50
wlesieutre wrote: post #37

> The I/O is also a genuine limitation: one USB 2.0 port is functionally useless for data transfer, no Thunderbolt means no fast external storage, and charging occupies your only USB 3 port. You're supposed to use the USB-2 port for charging and save the USB-3 port for external accessories, not the other way around It only supports 10Gb/s compared to 40 that USB-4 is theoretically capable of, but that's more than eno…

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Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by zozbot234 »

armanj wrote: post #7

for vibe coding stuff, especially when you're outside touching grass, I believe MacBook Neo is perfect. it fills the gap between the phone remote control (which is too painful for chatting with ai cli) and, well, not having any dev device.

It can't run LLMs very well, you'll be limited to tiny models with no coding ability and they'll be slow.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by ralfd »

Havoc wrote: post #85

Recently dived into mac world (air) too after decades of win/linux. Pleasant experience and very impressed by hardware and polish except wow the keyboard/shortcut situation is absolutely cursed. Not different...actually cursed. Who decided that sometimes its cmd+Q to close a window while other times its cmd+W and some apps support both but with different behaviours and knowing which of the three it is depends on know…

cmd-W closes windows and cmd-Q quits the App. That Apps can stay open without having a Window is actually useful (at least it makes sense to me).

@screenshot

Mac has always been kind of amazing for the granular options you get to take screenshots out of the box.

• Command - Shift - 3 | Takes a fullscreen pic of the entire display. Loads a preview in the bottom right corner. Click to expand, and from there edit, share, save, delete, etc.

• Command - Shift - 4 | Turns your mouse cursor into a crosshair. Drag to create a rectangular window. Takes a capture of the contents when done. Escape or right-click to cancel. Preview loads the same as above.

• Command - Shift - 5 | Brings up a rectangular section that can be moved around and resized.

But any shortcut can be remapped:

Go to System Settings > Keyboard > Keyboard Shortcuts > Screenshots

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by larkost »

Havoc wrote: post #85

Recently dived into mac world (air) too after decades of win/linux. Pleasant experience and very impressed by hardware and polish except wow the keyboard/shortcut situation is absolutely cursed. Not different...actually cursed. Who decided that sometimes its cmd+Q to close a window while other times its cmd+W and some apps support both but with different behaviours and knowing which of the three it is depends on know…

The cmd+q is the "quit" command. And the convention in single-window apps (or ones that have a single unambiguous main window) is that the window only closes when the app is quit. So this is command you have to give.

For "document-based" apps (think almost anything where you open multiple files), the application can stay running even if there are no open windows. So you have both cmd+q and cmd+w available to you.

You can probably come up with some apps that don't cleanly fit these two, but that is what Apple has.

As to screen shot commands, it is a three-key chord because it is system-wide, and they did not want to step on any toes that the apps might have. And there are a few versions: shift-command-3 takes the entire screen shift-command-4 takes either a window or a section (press space bar to switch between them) shift-command-5 opens a more menu-based system that includes a timer

Why 3, 4, and 5 (and not 1 or 2)... I don't know. Maybe there was something in those spots at some point.

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by stodor89 »

fredoliveira wrote: post #64
washingupliquid wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$150 netbooks solved this by labeling the ports "SS" or using blue USB-A inserts, but those are matters inferior PC users have to deal with.

I legitimately have no idea what "SS" means next to a port, and I've seen it plenty of times. Labeling doesn't solve everything. The message on screen that you get when you plug something into the wrong port on the Neo is, obviously, much better because it assumes nothing about the user's knowledge except for the ability to read.

> I legitimately have no idea what "SS" means next to a port

surströmming

Re: MacBook Neo Deep Dive: Benchmarks, Wafer Economics, and the 8GB Gamble

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Post by georgel »

nicoburns wrote: post #41
briandw wrote: post #3

We just bought the Neo for our daughter to use at school. My biggest concern was the trackpad. This is the first MacBook to not use a force touch trackpad since they were introduced. I must say that the new trackpad is really good. It's not quite as good as the force touch one in my MacBook Pro, but it's close. We will see how well the Neo holds up over time, but it's off to a good start.

The trackpads on the old (pre-force-touch MacBooks) were really good. The force-touch is (IMO) slightly better, but it's a slight difference.

I'll agree they were all great, but I liked the change to force-touch more.

The uni-body pre force-touch trackpads clicked on a hinge from the top and you would need to press much harder in that area.

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