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Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by cwillu »

autoexec wrote: post #63
JuniperMesos wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Say what you will about claiming that the Jews secretly control the world like the aliens in the 1988 John Carpenter movie They Live, the people mak…

> the people making this claim are certainly not obeying, conforming, or refraining from questioning authority. In my experience racists tend to just latch on to different authorities to blindly follow and obedience and conformity are even more strongly enforced. I've had long discussions with racists over the "rebel" identity they see in the confederate flag who shortly after demonstrated incredible amounts of boot-…

But it's not The Federal Authorities™, so they don't think it counts as conformity.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by latexr »

qsera wrote: post #61
latexr wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you know the difference between a conspiracy "nut", and a rational person? The former is trivially manipulated, can be made to believe anything by appealing to their inherent obvious biases, and will double down on their beliefs even when presented with irrefutable proof to the contrary. The latter can detect false dichotomies, understands answers are often nuanced instead of black and white, and is capable of c…

Yes, these categories are sometimes simply separated by what they considers as "irrefutable proof".

See “The Final Experiment”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Experiment_(expediti...

In particular the “Reactions” section.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Experiment_(expediti...

You’ll find this bit:

> Alabama pastor Dean Odle suggested that Satan created a fireball to act as a false Sun.

That is cuckoo cuckoo bananas to a point only “conspiracy nut” applies.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by sph »

xnx wrote: post #19
deng wrote: post #15

Oh the irony: "They Live", a movie famously about alienation and dehumanization, and you let AI do all the coding.

Interacting with a computer in natural language is much more human than typing in special codes and punctuation.

Imagine writing this comment on 2013 Hacker News with a straight face.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by account42 »

cwillu wrote: post #90
JuniperMesos wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Say what you will about claiming that the Jews secretly control the world like the aliens in the 1988 John Carpenter movie They Live, the people mak…

They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs?

Of course, choosing to stand up to the man together with those like minded makes you the real conformist. A deep philosophical conundrum for the prepubescent.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

HerbManic wrote: post #12
robot-wrangler wrote: post #6

Watch it if you haven't already. I accidentally landed in the middle of it while doing some illicit late night channel surfing when I was a kid.. this left quite an impression. I think it was a healthy formative influence for me and primed me for rejecting fads / peer pressure, distrusting authority, etc. Probably also helped me to resist the more unhealthy aspects of a religious time/place, and I was even doing ligh…

What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is w…

> somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for.

Same deal with the Starship Troopers movie. When Helldivers first came out, it was really incredible to see how many people truly didn't get the irony.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by ClikeX »

HerbManic wrote: post #12
robot-wrangler wrote: post #6

Watch it if you haven't already. I accidentally landed in the middle of it while doing some illicit late night channel surfing when I was a kid.. this left quite an impression. I think it was a healthy formative influence for me and primed me for rejecting fads / peer pressure, distrusting authority, etc. Probably also helped me to resist the more unhealthy aspects of a religious time/place, and I was even doing ligh…

What I find funny (only not really) is the wildly different interpretations of this film people have, for many they seem to be primed by other things to see in it what they want. Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is w…

To be fair, some people will always default back to "the Jews" any opportunity they get. That's not specific to this movie.

Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker

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Post by ClikeX »

cwillu wrote: post #90
JuniperMesos wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically skeptical of common forms in modernity, that is very clearly the intention. However, I have also seen that in extreme far-right communities this film represents how Jewish people control the world... somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Say what you will about claiming that the Jews secretly control the world like the aliens in the 1988 John Carpenter movie They Live, the people mak…

They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs?

I remember a conspiracy nut telling me "the truth", saying not to believe what the media told me, and do my own research. And then proceeded to point me to a few conspiracy influencers that were telling him what to think. It was very ironic.
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