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Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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Probably the worry that the jump from "we defend against slaughterbots" to "we built a better slaughterbot" is just around the corner

... so don't defend against the slaughterbots? (I don't know anything about the company we're discussing here, but this is a weird premise.)

Dude we haven’t even solved human manual slaughter in schools so surely adding auto shotguns to schools is a no brainer after the first incident.

Terminal society this is.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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YC has funded over 5000 companies, and this page catalogs 39 that failed, many of which, on the sites own terms, are simply business failures, with no additional drama. I don't think the authors of the site realize the case they're actually making here.

it mostly seems to be targeting Garry Tan by suggesting that there are vastly more under his leadership. But yeah, if you're going to consider startups that just never made enough money as a scandal, then Garry and his predecessors presided over rather a lot more (as would be expected from any accelerator). And if you're not, some harmless AI startup that never made much money or some entity that didn't do anything e…

>it mostly seems to be targeting Garry Tan

He is rather unpopular in some circles due to his political opinions. So I am not surprised.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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post #92

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it mostly seems to be targeting Garry Tan by suggesting that there are vastly more under his leadership. But yeah, if you're going to consider startups that just never made enough money as a scandal, then Garry and his predecessors presided over rather a lot more (as would be expected from any accelerator). And if you're not, some harmless AI startup that never made much money or some entity that didn't do anything e…

>it mostly seems to be targeting Garry Tan He is rather unpopular in some circles due to his political opinions. So I am not surprised.

He used to work at Palantir. You pretty much have to have shit moral views to be okay with that

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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Many civilians have seen how drones were used in Lebanon and Gaza, and hesitate to trust Western leadership with that type of kill chain. It's a borderline certainty that 9 Mothers employees will eventually contribute to the death of an innocent protestor or journalist that opposed the state.

Would you rather everyone except NATO had these capabilities?

I'm saying it is a slippery slope. Look at General Atomics, whose employees are accomplices to war crimes.

"My drones are only for killing terrorists" is always the rose-tinted glasses used to frame murder. The pushback is 100% expected.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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Would you rather everyone except NATO had these capabilities?

I'm saying it is a slippery slope. Look at General Atomics, whose employees are accomplices to war crimes. "My drones are only for killing terrorists" is always the rose-tinted glasses used to frame murder. The pushback is 100% expected.

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Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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OpenAI has their own fair share of critiques, I'd be careful lifting them up as a shining example.

Wait you mean the open ai nonprofit company that doesn't offer open models and is now for profit isn't a good example of a trustworthy company? What?

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-oss-120b

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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post #23

YC has funded over 5000 companies, and this page catalogs 39 that failed, many of which, on the sites own terms, are simply business failures, with no additional drama. I don't think the authors of the site realize the case they're actually making here.

I didn't read all of them, but none of the ones I read were simply business failures; most of them were selling snake oil or non-existent software as a service, or were productizing someone else's open source project while violating their license. That is to say, they were committing various kinds of fraud. Now, it's arguable whether YC could have detected all of these frauds or had a duty to do so, but the page is, to me, extremely valuable for providing examples of the ways in which the tech economy is basically a grift nowadays.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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Wait you mean the open ai nonprofit company that doesn't offer open models and is now for profit isn't a good example of a trustworthy company? What?

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-oss-120b

August 2025.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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post #42

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Mr. Ptacek, a) I have no affiliation with OP, and b) do you know what my actual position is (not presupposing that you care)? It's that I don't know anyone who has been inspired by anything that YC has funded in a very long time. The supermajority of these startups that don't make headlines for being scams is, in a way, even sadder. I also think it's pointless to howl at the sky about how depressing this is. It's jus…

I genuinely don't understand what you find depressing about it. That's what I'm saying. It's not hard to make a case for why it is; you just have to actually do it, unlike what this page is trying to do. (And, side note, a16z is definitely not the status quo ante of YC.)

What am I supposed to say to that? If you think the argument that you believe I’m trying to make (which I couldn’t guess if you put a gun to my head) would be easy to make, and that I’m just not doing so, then you’d be better off engaging in discourse with an imaginary but more competent interlocutor.

Re: YC's Biggest Scandals

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post #42

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I genuinely don't understand what you find depressing about it. That's what I'm saying. It's not hard to make a case for why it is; you just have to actually do it, unlike what this page is trying to do. (And, side note, a16z is definitely not the status quo ante of YC.)

What am I supposed to say to that? If you think the argument that you believe I’m trying to make (which I couldn’t guess if you put a gun to my head) would be easy to make, and that I’m just not doing so, then you’d be better off engaging in discourse with an imaginary but more competent interlocutor.

You said "it’s almost impossible to sustain a criticism of the accelerator because they make so many little investments." I responded, no, it isn't. You claim YC is "rotten to the core", so it should be easy to make some colorable critical argument. You're reacting as if that's a baffling request, which, you have a right to be baffled, but your bafflement works against your original argument.

Nobody's reading this but you and me at this point, so we might as well call it here.

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