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Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#91

So in France you will not be able to send your friend gibberish text that only you and your friend understand. Will they also ban the ability to make new languages that only you and your friends understand. Will they also ban whispering?

Well, if it is some gibberish between you and friends the state doesn't understand, they will have you silently and continually investigated by a pre-crime unit. You and your friends could be committing "thought-crime".

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#92

Seems to me we're going to have to let the anti-encryption mob have their way until things go wrong—bigtime. No amount of expert advice will convince them until they witness firsthand the negative consequences of weakening encryption. It's only afterwards and as a consequence some highly newsworthy disasters occur such as a child abduction or political sex scandal involving a high profile politician come to light tha…

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Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#93

So in France you will not be able to send your friend gibberish text that only you and your friend understand. Will they also ban the ability to make new languages that only you and your friends understand. Will they also ban whispering?

They've already banned religious and cultural freedom so why not?

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about left or right, but up and down.

Which are also known as right and left, respectively. What, did you think right and left were arbitrary? The words are arbitrary, but the meanings are not. They correlate quite strongly with the material interests of the up and down.

No, I'm referring to authoritarianism (up) and libertarianism (down).

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#95

So in France you will not be able to send your friend gibberish text that only you and your friend understand. Will they also ban the ability to make new languages that only you and your friends understand. Will they also ban whispering?

But how can they be SURE that you are not a terrorist? Neuralink is the only option!

Unknown associations and free speech are too scary. Neuralink and continual surveillance for the win. Pre-crime units at the ready.

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#96

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Did you just openly call for political assassination of French lawmakers in a public forum?

The murdering of French lawmakers is something we frequently celebrate here in France.

Your profile suggests that you’re in Israel, where groups like the Irgun are celebrated as national heroes. Violent struggle against perceived oppressors shouldn’t be an unfamiliar concept.

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#97

So in France you will not be able to send your friend gibberish text that only you and your friend understand. Will they also ban the ability to make new languages that only you and your friends understand. Will they also ban whispering?

When Loglan & Lojban are outlawed, only outlaws will use Loglan & Lojban. And Klingon.

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#98

How will they know what's encrypted? Maybe I just like sending random sequences of bytes across the wire

It doesn't even need to be random. What if you send an instance of a proprietary file format? Is the company required to share the spec and toolchain so that the govt can verify it (probably) isn't an encrypted message?

Exactly - or encrypted payloads hiding inside standard image file formats. Basically steganography. If all you want to send is a small encrypted text message, it should be possible to hide that in a large image (encoding in the LSB or whatever) in just a small percentage of pixels so that it doesn't fail statistical tests and is indistinguishable from real noise.

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#99

I'll repeat this over and over: Most EU politicians are aware of needing to lead from positions of deep unpopularity for the next 10-20 years, they're just setting the stage to have the tools to suppress dissent at their disposal. After encryption, my bet is on reduced rights to protest (see UK wanting to ban protests that repeatedly "cause disruption").

Yes, all the Mertz, Macron, Starmer and unelected Brussels ones have officially about 10-20% approval rating.

This is in fact mind boggling and I am still wondering how it is even possible.

My guess is most of those positive approval are boomers who watch TV and are less impacted by their policies because they own their house and receive their retirements, they are highly incentivised to keep the train going. Or people who directly benefit from their policies.

What I still can't explain is Trump can still maintain a much higher approval ratings with in a country with similar demographic profile, even after literally doing the exact opposite than he promised.

So my guess is the support for the current system and the people running it in Europe is probably less than 5% among the population who will still be around in 10-20 years.

So the current political system is literally levitating on a cloud of old people which is disappearing at a rate of about 10% per year. So one way or another this is gonna get ugly.

Re: France moves to break encrypted messaging

#100
The nazi drop more and more the mask. Yet most still not wake up...

BTW France already have

- https://gizmodo.com/france-bill-allows-police-access-phones-...

- https://www.medias-presse.info/une-nouvelle-loi-de-programma... can't find one in English

Plus

- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_renfor%C3%A7ant_la_s%C3%A9...

- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projet_de_loi_visant_%C3%A0_s%...

- https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_tendant_%C3%A0_renforcer_l...

Essentially China is already here.

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