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Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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I don't speak latin, but people that do say, that Vatican's X posts in Latin are in a really bad Latin. https://x.com/Pontifex_ln

(Probably not written by HHH himself, unless someone wants to compare it with the previous occupants - apparently Benedict XVI had the best Latin of the recent Pontificis)

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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I'm surprised Russian isn't on there.

Why? Most Russians are Orthodox, not Catholic

Most Arabic and Chinese speakers are not Catholic either.

The Vatican has shown a persistent interest in Russia, and yes, there is a significant Russian speaking Catholic minority, as well as a potential convert base. If I remember rightly, Russia (or the USSR) gets a prominent mention in the Fatima narrative.

Russian has declined a lot in importance over the past thirty years, but it is still a major world language in terms of its spread. It is a surprising omission.

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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Why? Most Russians are Orthodox, not Catholic

Most Arabic and Chinese speakers are not Catholic either. The Vatican has shown a persistent interest in Russia, and yes, there is a significant Russian speaking Catholic minority, as well as a potential convert base. If I remember rightly, Russia (or the USSR) gets a prominent mention in the Fatima narrative. Russian has declined a lot in importance over the past thirty years, but it is still a major world language…

Egyptian copts and XuJiaHui cathedral attendants would like to have a word with you.

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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My partner and I are from two different European countries that speak different languages. When we wanted to marry in the country of my partner, both our (catholic) churches needed to sync. They did so in their common language: Latin. That was a fun surprise.

My spouse and I lived in London, but we both come from (other) European countries, so for our wedding, three countries and four languages were involved: the church's forms are all both in the local language as well as in Latin. This is no different than hundreds of years ago, and it works well. Thanks to Latin, the church's _lingua franca_.

I once heard someone say "English has replaced Latin as the Lingua Franca," and started giggling incoherently.

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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> Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice. See specifically perhaps the encyclical Rerum novarum ( Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor ) from 1891: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching Various others over the decades.

It should be said that, as in many other fields, it was effectively forced on the church by external development. Marx published The Communist Manifesto in 1848 and Das Kapital in 1867; it took more than a generation for the church to accept that workers' rights were a thing. Even after that shift, the Catholic Church continued to be a fundamentally reactionary force in the realm of social policies, all the way throu…

> […] it took more than a generation for the church to accept that workers' rights were a thing.

The care for workers was a thing long before Marx. Rerum novarum (¶20) quotes scripture on the topic:

> To defraud any one of wages that are his due is a great crime which cries to the avenging anger of Heaven. "Behold, the hire of the laborers... which by fraud has been kept back by you, crieth; and the cry of them hath entered into the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth."(6)

Jesus himself was a tradesman, often translated as "carpenter":

* https://uscatholic.org/articles/202205/was-jesus-a-carpenter...

Marx's caring for the downtrodden and weak is itself a Christian concept; in contrast, Nietzsche hated weakness and Christianity for its support of those that are (he was not a fan of the Sermon on the Mount).

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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My partner and I are from two different European countries that speak different languages. When we wanted to marry in the country of my partner, both our (catholic) churches needed to sync. They did so in their common language: Latin. That was a fun surprise.

That’s pretty cool. What kind of things were your respective churches communicating about?

Basically- are you baptized and are you not married.

Re: The Vatican's Website in Latin

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> Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice. See specifically perhaps the encyclical Rerum novarum ( Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor ) from 1891: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching Various others over the decades.

Rerum Novarum was written by Leo XIII. When Robert Prevost took as his papal name Leo XIV, it was a clear signal of priorities, at least to those who are educated in church history and teaching. (There aren’t many names that carry a signal as clear as Leo. The only name that would have been in the same league might have been Francis II).

Peter II also indicates something.

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People love to wallow in the stereotype that the Catholic Church is old fashioned and anti-science. That's mostly propaganda leftover from 300 years ago. Catholic nuns were instrumental in the development of computers. A Catholic priest is fundamental to the Big Bang Theory†. Dozens of craters on the moon were named by and for Catholic clergy who discovered them. † https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître

I follow a couple Jesuit brothers on Blue Sky who work at the Vatican Observatory. One of them was tapped to receive an award for another astronomer at a ceremony she couldn’t attend. Beforehand, he said that he would be doing this but couldn’t name the astronomer but said that it was someone well-known and I realized that the only contemporary astronomers I could name were either Jesuits or Neil DeGrasse Tyson. (I d…

It’s said when they found the first uncomplicated Jesuit they made him Pope ;)
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