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This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

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Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#91

Post by TehCorwiz »

latexr wrote: post #74
teruakohatu wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If LLMs allow them to speedrun to an alternative mainstream browser, then full speed ahead. A third runner in this space would make the browser market a lot healthier than the current chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly.

I’d rather have a good browser which took its time to get things right than a speed run one. Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right. As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time d…

What are your thoughts on the current code quality? Have you had a chance to review it?

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#92

Post by pbhjpbhj »

JoRyGu wrote: post #31
NBPEL wrote: post #24

The hardest part for browser development has always been "artificial" web compatibility, as you know a lot of websites are forcefully blocking specific browser from loading, only allow Chromium to load their websites, that is the reality check for Ladybird, and seriously what stopping new web browsers from being able to compete, same with DRM Widevine, it's REALLY hard to acquire (unobtainiumware) for new browser, ev…

How common is this that they would even care about it anyways? I've run Firefox exclusively for the last 2 decades and have never once run into a site that told me I needed to switch to Chromium for compatibility.

A lot of systems seem to silently fail on Firefox - my broadband supplier's website failed at the last step of the onboarding process. I managed to get charged for installation (connection by the network operator, UK) twice, have onboarding emails sent, but not have the appointment in my account.

Used Edge, went through completely.

Can't guarantee it was Firefox/browser issues. But this is not that uncommon an occurrence.

I suspect it is the bank who are at fault.

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#93

Post by amake »

ricardobeat wrote: post #90
JoRyGu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How common is this that they would even care about it anyways? I've run Firefox exclusively for the last 2 decades and have never once run into a site that told me I needed to switch to Chromium for compatibility.

YouTube is crippled in Firefox, has been for years. It doesn’t force you to use Chrome, just a little nudge

In what way is it crippled?

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#94

Post by jcattle »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #92
JoRyGu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How common is this that they would even care about it anyways? I've run Firefox exclusively for the last 2 decades and have never once run into a site that told me I needed to switch to Chromium for compatibility.

A lot of systems seem to silently fail on Firefox - my broadband supplier's website failed at the last step of the onboarding process. I managed to get charged for installation (connection by the network operator, UK) twice, have onboarding emails sent, but not have the appointment in my account. Used Edge, went through completely. Can't guarantee it was Firefox/browser issues. But this is not that uncommon an occurr…

Just today Ryanair wouldnt let me in on Firefox. 403 with a cloudflare error.

But on chrome it went through without a hitch.

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#95

Post by chatmasta »

ricardobeat wrote: post #90
JoRyGu wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How common is this that they would even care about it anyways? I've run Firefox exclusively for the last 2 decades and have never once run into a site that told me I needed to switch to Chromium for compatibility.

YouTube is crippled in Firefox, has been for years. It doesn’t force you to use Chrome, just a little nudge

How so? I use Firefox for all leisure activities, including extensive YouTube usage, and have never noticed any issue. I’m running uBlock Origin and Sponsor Block. I’m logged into a dedicated Google account I made solely for browsing YouTube (so I can keep the viewing history without linking it too obviously to my main Google account).

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#96

Post by maccard »

jcattle wrote: post #94
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of systems seem to silently fail on Firefox - my broadband supplier's website failed at the last step of the onboarding process. I managed to get charged for installation (connection by the network operator, UK) twice, have onboarding emails sent, but not have the appointment in my account. Used Edge, went through completely. Can't guarantee it was Firefox/browser issues. But this is not that uncommon an occurr…

Just today Ryanair wouldnt let me in on Firefox. 403 with a cloudflare error. But on chrome it went through without a hitch.

I’ve been using Firefox for 20 years, and Ryanair for 10, I’ve never had to switch browser for it. My last flight was 2 weeks ago

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#97

Post by dirasieb »

bitwize wrote: post #37
ekianjo wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DRM Widevine, we have to thank tim berners lee for allowing this kind of bs in the first place

It was either permit DRM, or cut off the web for all sorts of media.

the web was famously cut off for all sorts of media before DRM was permitted

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#99

Post by dirasieb »

latexr wrote: post #74
teruakohatu wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If LLMs allow them to speedrun to an alternative mainstream browser, then full speed ahead. A third runner in this space would make the browser market a lot healthier than the current chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly.

I’d rather have a good browser which took its time to get things right than a speed run one. Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right. As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time d…

are you willing to contribute time, money and code?

Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026

#100

Post by dirasieb »

jordand wrote: post #45
einpoklum wrote: post #10

> Human Rights Foundation ... “AI for Individual Rights” program That sounds quite dodgy. Ladybird doesn't have AI, why would such a program support its development? But even before that: "Human Rights Foundation" sounds like "The Human League" which George makes up in Seinfeld as a fake charity. And promoting AI as a "human right" is quite suspicious. If I had to, I might be that this is something backed by one of t…

Ladybird has a close relationship with FUTO which is a pretty oddly behaved private for-profit company ran by a bored multi-millionaire. https://drewdevault.com/blog/Whats-up-with-FUTO/

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