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Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by smeej »

xienze wrote: post #42
jerojero wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously if you make the slides yourself then you'd know the content well. The way of using these tools is not to one-shot your slide deck (unless you have plenty time to learn the content) but give it a base product you've already worked on and ask it to make it pretty, interesting, etc. and perhaps make small changes to the content which you'd review and learn. You can probably use a knife as a fork but it wouldn'…

> The way of using these tools is not to one-shot your slide deck This line of thinking IMO is hopelessly naive. Yes, the responsible way to use AI and perhaps the way _you_ use it is to do some formatting/cleaning up/enhancement of slides that you primarily authored yourself. The reality is that _most_ people are using and will use AI as a way to breeze through as much work as possible either out of laziness or pres…

For some reason, I read "LGTM" as "Let's Go to Market," and spooked myself with the realization that that's absolutely the way this is all headed.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by smeej »

jshaqaw wrote: post #41
QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The purpose of making a powerpoint deck before a meeting is rarely the value of a deck. Rather it is signaling that someone spent some time actually organizing their thoughts instead of bloviating spontaneously. > All of this is lost with AI led design. Producing designed artifacts are free and instant. Yeah you will impress the old folks for a year or so who haven't caught onto the joke. I was at an AI/LLM themed…

I beg people to send me their prompts rather than the stochastic text expanded drivel they send me as memos/plans/etc... Massive waste of my time responding to ghosts - actually taking 10 pages seriously that often the "author" has barely read. I'd much rather get some unstructured bullet points if those are actually a person's ideas. I love AI. Used well it's a massive enhancer to make things. But yeah whats the val…

Almost 20 years ago, a professor I had in grad school agreed to let me submit my very detailed outline rather than filling in all the text to turn it into paragraphs. It's still the way I write presentations where I'll be speaking.

Maybe the "fill in the paragraphs" step was always unnecessary and we've finally stopped making people do it.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by garethsprice »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

One use of design is signaling, but not all - successful design is that which fulfills its purpose.

Many designed things do not need to be differentiated and will benefit from a homogenous AI-powered design (internal documentation, local service business communications, etc) in the same way that desktop publishing replaced hand or type-written notes but did not replace professional designers (although it did require them to learn digital tooling).

For designs that do benefit from being differentiated it'll be interesting to see what happens. If anything, AI homogeneity provides more opportunity for talented human designers who can provide "design alpha" beyond whatever trends the LLMs sucked up in their last crawl.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by indemnity »

beardedwizard wrote: post #56
citadel_melon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad people will have to evaluate the substance of the deck rather than using a cheap heuristic like how visually appealing the presentation is. I understand there tends to be a correlation between visual appeal and effort, and correlation between effort and merit, but correlation is notoriously flawed. Flawed models can be useful, but only if one qualifies their use sufficiently. I don’t think most people who us…

I really love this take. AI both increases and decimates the ability of people to BS you with fancy graphics and text.

The apparent quality of our pull request messages and documentation is sky high (at least from a language and grammar perspective), but I do miss the days of hand crafted prose, it was easier to tell the low effort crap from the gold.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by timcobb »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

Everything is already pretty homogenous I wouldn't blame AI for this.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by veritascap »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

Everything goes back to plain text. Would be kind of nice.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by AntonyGarand »

gavmor wrote: post #30
ModernMech wrote: post #6

Repo's been up for a week and already it has 14k stars. Oh look, they are gaining stars at a rate of pretty much exactly 1400 per day: https://www.star-history.com/?repos=nexu-io%2Fopen-design&ty... Yeah, nothing shady here at all.

Wow, rounded exactly to the hundreds? Or is that an artifact of star-history's data-collection?

Seems like this is an artifact / deliberate smoothing: Other tracker sites have unrounded data, and the github API does show a consistent growth instead of bursts at rounded intervals.

https://www.startrail.dev/?repos=nexu-io%2Fopen-design&legen...

The growth remains very artificial, a steady line instead of the real jitter than real stars would have.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by tipiirai »

AstroBen wrote: post #17
ricardobeat wrote: post #3

The README is unnerving. Do people really see the Claude-salesman style of writing as something normal? On the other hand, I should be thanking Anthropic for making it so easy to spot, they might have done this intentionally.

> That's not "AI tries to design something". That's an AI that has been trained, by the prompt stack, to behave like a senior designer with a working filesystem, a deterministic palette library, and a checklist culture What, you don't want your senior designer to have a working filesystem and checklist culture? No deterministic palettes?

What is a deterministic palette, and why is it so important here?

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by Garlef »

jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

It could also be that It just shifts the burden from execution to strategy.

It's not enough anymore to have someone push nice pixels for you.

You'll need to consider if your design aligns with how you want to position yourself wrt to other players in your space.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by andrekandre »

SR2Z wrote: post #70
jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

Human communication moves ever closer to its final form: bullet pointed lists of lower case text and emoji

  > bullet pointed lists of lower case text and emoji
preferably in caveman prose to save tokens, shit is getting expensive...
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