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Re: Claude for Creative Work

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Is there any meaningfully original art that’s come out of all this creativity yet? Something that actually stuck?

Using LLMs for creative work is quite different to using diffusion models for creative work. It normally means writing tools or automation processes to enhance the creative flow, not replacing the creative input of a human.

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Re: Claude for Creative Work

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>Major content providers have no problem with copyright Besides getting sued for piracy, settling out-of-court with Disney, and or externalizing DMCA/RIAA take-down liabilities on users. A human may transfer rights or "license" to another party in many circumstances, but may not re-sell a codified Coca-Cola logo trademark out of convenience. All levels of the US courts concluded an "AI" can't transfer nor actually cr…

Not owning the rights to some content and somebody else owning those rights are not the same thing. If someone else owns the copyright and you redistribute their stuff without permission, they have grounds to sue you. If nobody owns the copyright, because it expired long ago or because it came into being without human creative input, you can sell it just fine. So can everyone else, of course. Now, if you put your own…

Unless the "AI" content output is fundamentally unable to prevent piracy of other peoples content (it demonstrably can't even on a CEO live stream.) Most models will happily spew any statistically salient trademark, copyrighted and or patented code/music/images/video. Note too, GPL/LGPL is a contaminating license, so legal submarines will surface sooner or later if injected into closed-source projects.

The "how" it happens part is just legally irrelevant "[piracy] with extra steps", but if you are interested in details see below. =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhgYMH6n004

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-swift-ai-voice-likeness-...

Here is a simplified explanation of how vector search is done in many models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDdKiQNw80c

And a more detailed toy implementation to learn how to build your own:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE3FSIk46g

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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People who built a career on their mastery of Blender are going to lose their livelihoods. Why is this difficult to understand?

> Why is this difficult to understand? It'll be way easier to understand for developers when it starts happening in earnest to our profession, which is coming soon. It already is here to some extent, but so far mostly on the junior end so it hasn't been impacting many people who are already established in an industry that has provided relatively easy stable livelihoods for the past 30+ years, but soon won't.

> coming soon

The developers are literally on the bleeding edge here, it might be the most developed of the AI use cases right now. The most advanced tooling for LLMs revolves around SWE work, there are multiple prolific benchmarks that the labs are actively targeting in this area, and new ones are being built, whole product categories being spawned, software companies bleeding money for tokens.

It's the other professions that are to follow once the training data is in place to go reach for their livelihoods. SWEs got the early taste of what is coming. And the blender news is exactly that.

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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Regarding generative images, it's more of an issue because the effects are different. Software tends to be a "living" project, so just vibe coding with 0 software knowledge is not yet fully sustainable for maintaining a project. But with art, the AI just spits out a completed image. The generated images compete directly with the people the data was sourced from, and there have also been many cases of abuse, eg people…

It threatens because we aren’t just talking about selling your art. Artists get hired at companies to produce all kinds of work that will now be replaced by AI.

Artists get hired at companies because companies have the technology that made the artists work profitable, starting from book printing (public performance -> book printing -> cinema -> tv -> internet, similar to drawing -> photo -> digital). At the Public Performance / Drawing Era artists were mostly poor low class rogues. The technology made them what they are now.

They are protesting against natural technology development. To me it looks similar to taxi drivers protesting against Uber (protecting their right to scam tourists).

Did drawing artists protest against photography? Do celebrities protest against photographers selling their photos taken by them in public places?

They are right to be afraid though. What's really happening here most probably is Anthorpic buys rights to collect user trajectory data. In order to replace Blender users later.

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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Just noticed this notice added at the top of the Blender announcement of their funding from Anthropic: https://www.blender.org/press/anthropic-joins-the-blender-de... > Notice: This announcement is causing a lot of feedback. We are actively evaluating it. Presumably a lot of Blender users work in roles that feel threatened by AI being used for computer graphics work. Lots of negative replies on Blursky here: https://…

People on Mastodon are losing their shit too[1]. I understand being unhappy about something but people gotta relax. --- [1]: https://social.coop/@netopwibby/116483037092383210

Why do they "gotta relax"? Are they making you uncomfortable by voicing their opinions or why exactly?

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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The thing is, ages ago, I was told by the scripting evangelist at Adobe Systems that a certain process (adding sub, sub-sub, and sub-sub-sub entries) to an index entry was impossible --- problem was, my boss had already promised a script to do that to a client.... Turns out it is possible, one just has to have the script check to see if each level of a given index entry exists or no, then if it does not yet exist, cr…

So that was our assumption too while building it, but I'm genuinely surprised by how well frontier models can work with large and 'lightly-documented' SDKs. I think a big part of it comes from deliberately exposing lowest-level atomic actions; not higher-level wrappers with use-case specific documentation. Instead, we supply very technical/'dry' documentation (inputs, action/effects, return values and types). We leav…

Right, this interaction was not documented, so would never have been found by an LLM, or are you saying that an hallucination will match up with a lacunae in the documentation often enough to make up for errors otherwise?

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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It's really clear that businesses are hoping to replace people with AI. In an industry that is already very difficult to make a stable living in, and troubled with regular plagiarism, is it really that surprising that any encroachment of AI into that space would be met with backlash? Even if you can see how individual circumstances could be beneficial to your workflow, it's a general direction I think many take issue…

> It's really clear that businesses are hoping to replace people with AI. In an industry that is already very difficult to make a stable living in, and troubled with regular plagiarism, is it really that surprising that any encroachment of AI into that space would be met with backlash? But what's the plan, then? Prevent any third party from downloading Blender and integrate it in any way with an agent?

An actual plan would involve regulation, otherwise we are just complaining loudly while things march on anyway.

I fully expect things to march on anyway. I have no idea how it plays out for creative industries, I am still thinking and observing in that regard.

Re: Claude for Creative Work

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Regardless of the purported upside, many people in the arts feel betrayed by the commercial interests that built this technology on their work without their consent and threatened by the explicit intent of these vendors to devalue their work by saturating the art and design market with cheap automated substitution. A lot of artists who would love to be able to direct their professional software in natural language ha…

Speaking as someone who works in the industry, I haven't really heard this sentiment. Artists are predominantly hostile to diffusion models, but optimistic about LLMs and their ability to help them write tools and scripts even if they're non-technical.

So basically artists are cool with developers not getting paid so long as they do...
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