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OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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They're also not focused exclusively only on building an LLM, they have video and image generation too. Anthropic has one single focus, and this is why they are usually at the very top in the SWE benchmarks.

Open AI is killing Sora though, so it looks like they are looking at Anthropic's playbook of focusing on enterprise use cases and seeing that it's more profitable.

But then they released gpt-image-2, which is clearly SOTA.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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yup, I think there are few public articles on aws mantle so you can look it up, but internally this is pretty common knowledge. The entire inference engine of bedrock is built and maintained by a handful of ec2 engineers (all principals and above). Judging by the commit history of the project they are able to just build independent of any of the traditional bureaucracy.

the way in which Mantle was built is highlighted internally by PEs as some sort of triumph but really its a fairly tone deaf indicted of AWS’s engineering culture ... “To achieve a meaningful result in a reasonable amount of time we had to break nearly ever constraint that we force all other engineers to work under. good luck to you plebs of L6 and below”

I'm going to play devil's advocate here: _what if_ most of lower level engineers are actually not able to self-organize themselves like this dedicated, I bet hand-picked group of PE can? I'm pretty sure AWS ruthless culture would gladly use less middle-managers and be swifter in time to market if it were so easy, no? What works for a single, highly-focused project (or a handful of similar situations) doesn't scale when you have to take care of bazillion customers, do boring/smaller tasks and keep the machine ticking.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Availability through Bedrock has been a major driver in use of Anthropic in my org. And I am betting there is actual margin in it as well. I wonder if this is directly linked to the split up with Microsoft. Just from my anecdata, OpenAI is getting completely ignored in serious enterprise deployments because what they offer on Azure sucks and there is no other corporate friendly way to get it. They probably saw themse…

ur probably right on the margin. Anthropic doesn't break it out, but enterprise spend on Bedrock is the highest quality revenue in the AI stack right now. Itzs sticky, multi-year, embedded in existing AWS commits. OpenAI was watching that compound while stuck on Azure

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Remember that models on different inference platforms might not necessarily give exactly the same results, adding another axis of non-determinism to development. Things like quantization, custom model serving silicon, batching, or other inference optimizations might mean a model from the original provider performs differently from the hosted one :/ This paper isn't the exact same scenario, since it's an auditable ope…

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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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post #41

Availability through Bedrock has been a major driver in use of Anthropic in my org. And I am betting there is actual margin in it as well. I wonder if this is directly linked to the split up with Microsoft. Just from my anecdata, OpenAI is getting completely ignored in serious enterprise deployments because what they offer on Azure sucks and there is no other corporate friendly way to get it. They probably saw themse…

May be very dependent on country/region, but in Germany where Azure is quite prevalent in mid-market companies (due to heavy historic reliance on Microsoft in general), OpenAI + Azure seems to have worked as a great synergy. Few customers I've worked are even trying to reach for other providers, as the OpenAI models are available for them and promoted by Azure.

Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Now they are ruining amazon too. It's fascinating to see. AI is kind of like the ultimate corporation drug. They are all on it. And can't get rid of it - ever again.

How are they "ruining" Amazon with these launches? That is not clear to me.

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Re: OpenAI models coming to Amazon Bedrock: Interview with OpenAI and AWS CEOs

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Dario wants to replace you with AI as well. Don't be fooled into thinking he's your friend because he said no to Trump that one time. I'll remind you that Musk used to be the left's hero not too long ago.

I'm in the "AI could be good for humanity" camp, and in this camp, we believe that Dario/Anthropic is a radically better choice going forward than the alternatives at this moment. In this camp we are not 'fooled into thinking he's our friend because he said no to Trump that one time', we are evaluating the entire set of available information and figuring that Anthropic's the best bet. As for Musk ever being "the left…

Funny of you to bring up "humanity" while singing praise of the guy who's on record A-OK with aiding mass surveillance of anywhere not the U.S., and who's happy to help kill people but just wouldn't do it fully automatically, merely because he doesn't believe the tech is there yet. All while collaborating with Palantir.

If by "the best bet" you mean slightly less shitty bet then maybe.

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